Originally posted by sasquatch672curious debate going here.
Okay...so really, translated, what you're saying is, "I'm so straight that you could use me as a ruler, I'm the straightest straight man you ever met, I'm John Wayne, Jesse The Body, Steve McQueen and Chuck Norris all rolled into one." I mean that's what your question implies. And my question to you is - since no one was asking, why do you feel the need to assert yourself?
they say that one tries hardest to fight that thing in others which one can not bear about oneself.............where does that leave the vocal anti gay lobby?
but hey im not pro gay, i see it as a defect.
Originally posted by eamondoIf it were a defect, it would be a defect that would be likely to be lost during the passing of time.
curious debate going here.
they say that one tries hardest to fight that thing in others which one can not bear about oneself.............where does that leave the vocal anti gay lobby?
but hey im not pro gay, i see it as a defect.
In the Roman Empire homosexual 'giving' was readily accepted for the higher classes, but it was recreation rather than a choice against hetrosexuality.
I have no desire to have sex with anyone other than my wife, but I don't see homosexuality in others as being a defect, or making them any less 'correct' than I am.
Originally posted by StarValleyWyYes.
Well, It's a long sad tail, but I can relate a story of old Bill Sam Wilde. He was a happy young lad. All he ever wanted was to ride the prairie and shoot cayotes protecting his sheep.
On week ends he would go to town and tie one on. One night he got so blasted that he couldn't make it back to camp. So he lit a little fire beside the trail and hobble ...[text shortened]... knew he was doomed. So he became gay right there on the spot. Wouldn't you?
Originally posted by StarValleyWyYes.
Well, It's a long sad tail, but I can relate a story of old Bill Sam Wilde. He was a happy young lad. All he ever wanted was to ride the prairie and shoot cayotes protecting his sheep.
On week ends he would go to town and tie one on. One night he got so blasted that he couldn't make it back to camp. So he lit a little fire beside the trail and hobble ...[text shortened]... knew he was doomed. So he became gay right there on the spot. Wouldn't you?
Originally posted by TetsujinLikewise, no offence intended, but just be what you are. You can work on self-improvement but use what you were given. It's a pretty good starting point for anybody.
No offence intended, but it's a pretty stupid question.
If you are gay, then you are gay. If you are straight, then you are straight.
There's no handbook or guideline for becoming one or the other.
If you would like a real answer to your question, which I doubt, studies show that most homosexuals don't choose to be gay. They are gay. They know it at a very early age. As early as eight years old or younger. What they do choose is to embrace their sexuality and become openly gay.
Why are you asking anyhow? Are you questioning your own sexuality? Has your religion been repressing your true spirit? If so, there are plenty of organizations that can help you through your crisis.
If you are opposed to homosexuality in all it's forms and opposed to anything that gay men have created then you should turn off your computer. Tim Gill the creator of Quark desktop publishing software is openly gay. Alan Turing, the man creditted with inventing the first computational machine was openly gay and persecuted for it.
Let's really get to the heart of your facsination with homosexuality. This is at least the second thread you have started trying to find out how to become gay. Are you truly interested, because I know some men that would love to show their way. If you want I will give you their number.
If you don't want to become gay then why keep asking?
You seem to have a fixation with homosexuality. If you are straight, which I doubt, then you should put all that sexual energy into pleasing a woman, if one will have you, which I also doubt. If you aren't straight, which I think is the case, then you really need to seek out an organization that will help you come to grips with your homosexuality. It seems that you are conflicted because your religion says that homosexuality is abhorent, but nature is telling you otherwise. Don't worry! There are plenty of Christian organizations that will help you through this. Just give in and come out of the closet. You will feel much better I am sure.
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Originally posted by steve645It's environmental, not hereditary.
I guess you would choose to have sex with someone of the same gender. If you like it, and don't want to go back to opposite sex partners, and choose to live that way from that point on, you become gay. It's environmental, not hereditary.
Wrong, wong wrong, wrong, wrong!
These types of behaviour are extremely difficult to explain according to "hereditary and environment." Many types of behaviour are the result of genetic predispositions (hereditary) and a trigger factor (environment). Some predispositions are the culmination of more then one gene (or in fact different proteins translated from that gene). Certain trigger factors require an accummulation of events and experiences. Therefore, it is easy to appreciate the difficulty in cataloguing homosexuality into hereditary or environment. I personally believe it will be impossible to explain homosexuality either way. I suspect it is both.
Also, homosexuality is the attraction not the action. You can't choose (for many reasons I believe choice does not exist) to be gay (because you can't choose what you find attractive).
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Originally posted by CliffLandinYou seem to have a persecution for attacking people. hmmm...
If you would like a real answer to your question, which I doubt, studies show that most homosexuals don't choose to be gay. They are gay. They know it at a very early age. As early as eight years old or younger. What they do choose is to embrace their sexuality and become openly gay.
Why are you asking anyhow? Are you questioning your own sexuality? H ...[text shortened]... hrough this. Just give in and come out of the closet. You will feel much better I am sure.
Homophobe!
Originally posted by Conrau Khuh?
You seem to have a persecution for attacking people. hmmm...
Homophobe!
Who am I attacking? I am just trying to get to the root of the issue. (so to speak)
I would never attack anyone for their sexual preference. Now religious preference, maybe, but sexual preference, never.
I know you were trying to be clever, but once again you have fallen short.
Originally posted by steve645Outside of single-gender environments like prisons, I've not heard of any strictly heterosexual person choosing to have sex with someone of the same sex. Same sex = homosexual. Lack of preference = bisexual. Of course, I didn't see the Oprah episode in which men explained how they had sex with other men but considered themselves heterosexual :-)
I guess you would choose to have sex with someone of the same gender. If you like it, and don't want to go back to opposite sex partners, and choose to live that way from that point on, you become gay. It's environmental, not hereditary.