01 May 07
Originally posted by slimjimThe only guns I would want or need are gettable - only have to pass background checks and go through the licensing process ... you know, the 'normal' thing one would expect.
That's right. The Gov took your guns away also just like the Euros.
01 May 07
Originally posted by slimjimSsssweeeet!😲
I get military issue .50 that costs me about $1.50 a round. The match grade bullets costs between $5.00 and $6.00 a round. I use a firing range on the Rod and Gun Club here at Ft. Bliss, TX. We made some targets out of half inch steel and set them off at about between 800 and a 1000 meters and go to town. Come on down to El Paso and I'll let you pop off a few rounds.
I shot a .50 cal one time. It was mounted on the deck of a ship. Instead of popping off a few test rounds as instructed, I figured this was a once in a lifetime opportunity so after I shot a couple test rounds I did a quick left-to-right spray and then came in close and squeezed off a long burst as I lifted the barrel. I can still picture in my mind the skips in the water as the rounds got further and further away from the ship. It also produced a roar of appreciation from my shipmates. The CPO in charge was not as impressed. Hey, I figured that's what the gun was designed to do!!!😀 That stunt cost me a weekend's liberty, but was well worth it
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01 May 07
Originally posted by wibNot exactly - the union couldn't set foot on company property at all, and for one very interesting reasons: Carnegie had established sniper towers. The company pursued a deliberate anti-union policy, and of course the union did what trade unions are meant to do: it organized collective action in a trial of strength to stop the company laying off hundreds of men.
Not quite. The labor force turned their employer's property into their own personal fortification. They did that to keep out anyone looking to replace them. The owner called in pinkerton to bust the strike. Everybody had a gun. Everybody shot at everybody else. There are no innocent victims in that situation.
The workers caught the pinkerton boys by s ...[text shortened]... ted most were nowhere near that level of violence. Both sides were usually guilty everytime.
In any fair democracy, the trial would be a trial of strength and willpower between the two sides until the strongest won. In this case, a tiny group of people were able to use the fact of private gun ownership to buy a 300-strong private army and threaten to machine-gun it to death. That isn't industrial justice any more than being a multi-millionaire where the wherewithal to buy a printing press implies free speech.
01 May 07
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Originally posted by AmauroteI found event I was referring to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ludlow_massacre
Not exactly - the union couldn't set foot on company property at all, and for one very interesting reasons: Carnegie had established sniper towers. The company pursued a deliberate anti-union policy, and of course the union did what trade unions are meant to do: it organized collective action in a trial of strength to stop the company laying off hundreds of n being a multi-millionaire where the wherewithal to buy a printing press implies free speech.
I did more looking and there is alot of conflicting information, so I really dont know if that was a good example that I used... but what would have happened if the strikers did not have arms to help protect themselves.
03 May 07
Originally posted by monster truckThat was more likely a M2 Browning .50 cal. It was fun to shoot wasn't it.
Ssssweeeet!😲
I shot a .50 cal one time. It was mounted on the deck of a ship. Instead of popping off a few test rounds as instructed, I figured this was a once in a lifetime opportunity so after I shot a couple test rounds I did a quick left-to-right spray and then came in close and squeezed off a long burst as I lifted the barrel. I can still pic ...[text shortened]... gun was designed to do!!!😀 That stunt cost me a weekend's liberty, but was well worth it
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