17 Nov 20
@metal-brain said“ They don't work. I covered this pretty well in the science forum.”
They don't work. I covered this pretty well in the science forum.
https://www.redhotpawn.com/forum/science/the-science-of-face-masks.187031
U.S. Surgeon General Jerome Adams explained specifically why they don't work early on.
https://www.foxnews.com/media/surgeon-general-explains-masks-public-coronavirus
He then explained the reasons why.
“On an individua ...[text shortened]... ring face masks all day could do more harm than good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHF1FE4sCDs
😂😂
Yeah I’m not getting a clear picture of the science forum buckling under the weight of your intellect.
17 Nov 20
@cheesemaster saidnowhere does it increase like in the US. The more thorough the mask use is the less it increases.
@vivify
Covid is increasing world wide.
Do you blame Trump for everything?🙄
17 Nov 20
@cheesemaster said...this is why more people voted for Biden than for Trump?
People want an optimistic President.
Not "doom and gloom" Biden
17 Nov 20
@cheesemaster saidyou know About probabilty? The more People infected are around the ore they can infect...So talsk About incidence, but be Aware that we still are at the very low percentage of poeple who had it.
More people use them now than the first wave.
I don't even see people without them now 🤔
17 Nov 20
@cheesemaster saidMaybe your fart "particles" are bigger than Virus and Bacteria, what you smell are not the particles, but molecules which are far smaller than nay Virus.
I don't think masks work.
Just my opinion.
If you wear a mask and I fart you smell it.
Bacteria and virus particles are smaller than fart particles.
I think masks are just a "safety blanket" to make people calmer.
People are wearing masks more than ever and covid numbers are higher than ever.
17 Nov 20
@metal-brain saidThread 187322
They don't work. I covered this pretty well in the science forum.
https://www.redhotpawn.com/forum/science/the-science-of-face-masks.187031
U.S. Surgeon General Jerome Adams explained specifically why they don't work early on.
https://www.foxnews.com/media/surgeon-general-explains-masks-public-coronavirus
He then explained the reasons why.
“On an individua ...[text shortened]... ring face masks all day could do more harm than good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHF1FE4sCDs
This is the way to link threads. I wonder how many scientist you convinced.
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17 Nov 20
@cheesemaster saidDon't you have some "reverse mortgages" to peddle?
I don't think masks work.
Just my opinion.
If you wear a mask and I fart you smell it.
Bacteria and virus particles are smaller than fart particles.
I think masks are just a "safety blanket" to make people calmer.
People are wearing masks more than ever and covid numbers are higher than ever.
I guess life's been hard ever since they cancelled Magnum PI.
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@cheesemaster saidBecause masks are only part of the solution.
If masks work why are we seeing record numbers of covid when more people wear masks now than the first wave?
More people wearing masks isn't going to help unless a) other measures are also implemented and b) there is a high level of compliance. If three people in a closely packed crowd of 500 wear masks, it isn't going to help much, even if those three people represent a threefold increase over the previous crowd.
The reason why America is seeing record numbers of infections is that a) the Trump administration has failed to set a coherent policy, and b) many Trump supporters in particular, taking their cue from Trump's own behaviour, have resisted practically all of the sensible, science-based recommendations put to them. Take a look at news photos of the Trump supporters who recently rallied near the WH: most of the people in the crowd were not wearing masks.
@earl-of-trumps saidSeveral EU countries got it wrong, at least as wrong as the US (with its lack of policy and low compliance); they had the right policies but they did not stick to them, they relaxed the lockdowns too soon.
@moonbus
I really don't think policy is the end-all, be-all moonbus.
Look at the UK, Italy, and others. if policies there worked, we'd be doing them
Look at the countries which got it right though: NZ, Singapore, etc. They had coherent policies, high compliance, and did not relax the lockdowns before the reproduction-rate was under control for an extended period of time. They are now able to re-open their economies and start recovering. The EU and the USA are both still struggling to get the reproduction-rate under control and are nowhere near returning their economies to business as usual.
@cheesemaster saidYeah, optimistic, like "this will just go away by Easter." "OK, summer." "Er, ahh, there's a vaccine in the pipeline, maybe be announced by Nov 2." "We're turning the corner" as the US hits new records almost daily.
People want an optimistic President.
Not "doom and gloom" Biden
That's more like misty optics.
17 Nov 20
@moonbus saidAnd if you want to focus on EU, then you can draw a comparison between UK, Italy, France vs Germany.
Several EU countries got it wrong, at least as wrong as the US (with its lack of policy and low compliance); they had the right policies but they did not stick to them, they relaxed the lockdowns too soon.
Look at the countries which got it right though: NZ, Singapore, etc. They had coherent policies, high compliance, and did not relax the lockdowns before the reproductio ...[text shortened]... reproduction-rate under control and are nowhere near returning their economies to business as usual.
What is one country doing right that the other 3 countries aren't ?
18 Nov 20
@shavixmir saidThey may not help at all. There is evidence that they may do more harm than good. Most people are not wearing masks properly and nobody is trying to get them to.
Wow! I am truly amazed and impressed!
You have written something which isn’t paranoid delusional and is actually spot on.
Yes. Masks are only of a small influence.
Yes. There is a serious chance of people getting a false sense of security.
But as prime minister Rutte (the Netherlands) said: “All measures, even those that only help a little, have to be used now to lo ...[text shortened]... s around their faces anyway.. or white hoods on. Really don’t know what your problem is with it all.