@wildgrass saidFOX Propaganda immediately cancelled Lou Dobbs.
The smartmatic voting company, the one that FoxNews has been dragging through the coals for the last three months, just filed a defamation lawsuit asking for $2.7 billion. The document is 285 pages long, and it does not look they are willing or interested in settling this case out of court. It seems they are trying to make a point about the importance of telling the truth i ...[text shortened]... the best part of the lawsuit is the first sentence of the introduction: "The earth is round."
LOL
@instantkarma777 saidTakes a 2/3 majority in the Senate to convict, they don't have the votes.
I have been watching it all here from Dublin Ireland and I just can't believe it all. Especially that riot in the Capitol. Trump's trial starts on February 9.
How do you Americans think it will play out?
Plus the Senate doesn't even have the jurisdiction to try a private citizen.
It'll be challenged and the trial will be quashed on constitutional grounds.
@dood111 saidWell, that certainly sounds like the GOPQ.
Takes a 2/3 majority in the Senate to convict, they don't have the votes.
Plus the Senate doesn't even have the jurisdiction to try a private citizen.
It'll be challenged and the trial will be quashed on constitutional grounds.
Sticking to the Trump playbook of lying their asses off, hoping no one will call them on it. Then when they do, cry "HOAX!!!"
@handyandy saidWhat, prison time isn't the same thing?
When did you graduate from law school?
@mghrn55 saidIt's almost like they know it's propaganda but they keep spewing it out there because their viewers lap it up. The defamation suits are the only thing stopping them from continuing to vomit nonsense.
FOX Propaganda immediately cancelled Lou Dobbs.
I mean, that legal document is intense. They had dozens and dozens of examples of the Fox News team saying something about them on air, stating it as fact, in which there was no logical rationale for them to say it. They would be talking about malfunctioning smartmatic machines in counties where there were none, for example. There'd be no reason to do that if there were real issues of fraud to talk about. Unless of course there was a specific "disinformation campaign" launched against their company at the organizational level.
@dood111 saidActually:
Takes a 2/3 majority in the Senate to convict, they don't have the votes.
Plus the Senate doesn't even have the jurisdiction to try a private citizen.
It'll be challenged and the trial will be quashed on constitutional grounds.
"The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments."
US Constitution, Article I, Section 3
Trump was impeached (while in office, a fact the Rand Pauls and Lindsey Grahams of the world don't want to discuss), so the Senate has to try him. Granted, they could dismiss it on Constitutional grounds as they did the impeachment of Senator William Blount in 1798 (because a Senator can be expelled thus no need for impeachment) but they already rejected a Rand Paul resolution seeking such relief by a 55-45 vote.
The state of GA announces an investigation into Trump's attempt to overturn the election result (remember the infamous phone call of 2 January?).
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-georgia-investigation-exclu/exclusive-georgia-secretary-of-state-opens-investigation-into-trumps-efforts-to-overturn-election-idUSKBN2A82HO
@moonbus
I've heard this nursery rhyme before. Next step is to investigate the investigation, then investigate the investigators, then you make up a story about the backdoor of a pizza parlor and implicate all the investigators in some shady business, and then and only then will we be way farther from the truth than we were before.
On with the investigations!
@wildgrass
The difference in this case is that Trump was recorded threatening state election officials if they didn't "find" more votes and "recalculate" the result.
@moonbus
Sure, but the sister-in-law of the guy doing the recording once 'vacationed' in Venezuela with a guy who moved back to the US and had a drink with an employee who worked for Smartmatic.
I bet you're going to sit over there thinking that was a coincidence? Nah this was a frame job from the very beginning. And even though Trump was clearly set up, he still nailed that conversation. Perfect, perfect phone call. Maybe one of the best... although he's made a lot of really good ones.
@wildgrass
It'll be interesting to see whether Smartmatic takes Fox News down a notch with their billion-dollar defamation lawsuit.
@moonbus
Most of these things end in a no-fault settlement, but it does seem like these voting machine companies want conservative media to publicly admit to their wrongdoing. So you're right, that might change things, but also will probably just drag the Lou Dobbs of the world into the vortex of conspiracy. Awfully suspicious he quit when he did.