19 Jul 09
Originally posted by USArmyParatrooperThat is where their kill off plan comes into effect. Those slaves that are left will be monitored 24-7.
That doesn't address what I said though. Oppressive regimes often do have uprisings, just like what happened in Iran. Sometimes they're succesful and sometimes they are not.
Such uprisings would be very difficult to squash on a global level, so I believe the government would be forced to adhere to the will of the people.
It's an interesting scenario to contemplate.
19 Jul 09
Originally posted by USArmyParatrooperInstead of using Iran as a example,Stalins U.S.S.R. is more like it. A good book that describes how he was able to control such a huge population is "the Gulag Archipelago".I think this could be repeated on a much bigger scale,perhaps in our hypothetical world order/one world government.
That doesn't address what I said though. Oppressive regimes often do have uprisings, just like what happened in Iran. Sometimes they're succesful and sometimes they are not.
Such uprisings would be very difficult to squash on a global level, so I believe the government would be forced to adhere to the will of the people.
It's an interesting scenario to contemplate.
19 Jul 09
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Originally posted by USArmyParatrooperit would be difficult to hold a whole global state together anyway.
Those checks and ballances are of course important but that's not what I was saying. I was saying it would be very DIFFICULT to maintain an oppressive regime on a global scale.
there would always be separatists somewhere, plus, some groups of people just hate each others guts, either because of their religion, ethinicity, cultural differences, etc, etc.
a world government would be short-lived, as some groups will eventually break away, and we would in theory go back to having different countries.
19 Jul 09
Originally posted by generalissimoIf the U.S.A. can exist without seperatist movements worthy of mention, I see no reason to believe the world cannot exist without such movements.
it would be difficult to hold a whole global state together anyway.
there would always be separatists somewhere, plus, some groups of people just hate each others guts, either because of their religion, ethinicity, cultural differences, etc, etc.
19 Jul 09
Originally posted by utherpendragonIn case I don't get around to reading it right away can you elaborate a little on the book and how it describes controlling the masses?
Instead of using Iran as a example,Stalins U.S.S.R. is more like it. A good book that describes how he was able to control such a huge population is "the Gulag Archipelago".I think this could be repeated on a much bigger scale,perhaps in our hypothetical world order/one world government.
19 Jul 09
Originally posted by KazetNagorrathe USA is one country, saying that because it has successfully kept itself together the same thing would happen to the whole world is a big stretch.
If the U.S.A. can exist without seperatist movements worthy of mention, I see no reason to believe the world cannot exist without such movements.
the usa is just one country, other regions in the globe are much more divided.
19 Jul 09
Originally posted by generalissimoWhat if the other countries were to become like states of the global government?
the USA is one country, saying that because it has successfully kept itself together the same thing would happen to the whole world is a big stretch.
the usa is just one country, other regions in the globe are much more divided.
19 Jul 09
Originally posted by generalissimoYes, it is just one country. But a very big one at that. I'm not saying there is never going to be any civil wars, should there ever be a single world government. I'm just saying that it's possible that such a state would exist without civil wars.
the USA is one country, saying that because it has successfully kept itself together the same thing would happen to the whole world is a big stretch.
the usa is just one country, other regions in the globe are much more divided.
19 Jul 09
Originally posted by joe beyserin a nut shell,a massive secret police state was set up. The entire populace was encouraged to inform on one another w/ a paranoia not knowing who was kgb and who was not. A total fear never to speak out,because you dont know who you are speaking to.Any one viewed as a threat to the state was quietly disposed of.Any person vaguely related to that said person disappeared as well.The middle of the night ,a knock on the door by the authorities for questioning."you need to come w/us".The residents of the home comply because they are law abiding citizens,they are never seen or heard from again.And so on and so forth.Tens of millions were disposed of this way.
In case I don't get around to reading it right away can you elaborate a little on the book and how it describes controlling the masses?
the book goes much in depth and this is one example of how a massive group of people were ruled and controlled w/ a iron fist and no rebellions come to mind
19 Jul 09
Originally posted by utherpendragonIn other words, it would be a living hell.
in a nut shell,a massive secret police state was set up. The entire populace was encouraged to inform on one another w/ a paranoia not knowing who was kgb and who was not. A total fear never to speak out,because you dont know who you are speaking to.Any one viewed as a threat to the state was quietly disposed of.Any person vaguely related to that sai ...[text shortened]... assive group of people were ruled and controlled w/ a iron fist and no rebellions come to mind
I don't see how anyone would like to live in such place, its better to stay as we are now.
19 Jul 09
Originally posted by utherpendragonThanks. I figured it would be something like that. I am glad you mentioned it because people see this as a good opportunity and don't realize they are being set up and duped right now.
in a nut shell,a massive secret police state was set up. The entire populace was encouraged to inform on one another w/ a paranoia not knowing who was kgb and who was not. A total fear never to speak out,because you dont know who you are speaking to.Any one viewed as a threat to the state was quietly disposed of.Any person vaguely related to that sai ...[text shortened]... assive group of people were ruled and controlled w/ a iron fist and no rebellions come to mind
http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/quotes/index.htm
These quotes are an eye oppener too.
Once people start ratting on each other to the police state to save themselves or jockey for a position within it, we are in big trouble.