04 Jul 09
dear friends, today Americans are celebrating, independence day, a sorry day at that, for if it were not for those miscreant Bostonians complaining about a little taxation, who knows what may have transpired. The British of course had spent a fortune, safeguarding the colony, but no, it was not to be recouped in the form of a little mild taxation, thus independence was sought, but i ask you friends, are the Americans any less taxed now than they had been under the benevolent arm of the British, i beg to differ! Come back to us oh America, if you can forget about us torching the whitehouse, we can forget about your little tiff!
04 Jul 09
Originally posted by robbie carrobieThe level of taxation is not relevant. The problem was that they had taxation without representation. Now, this being a representative democracy, they have representation.
dear friends, today Americans are celebrating, independence day, a sorry day at that, for if it were not for those miscreant Bostonians complaining about a little taxation, who knows what may have transpired. The British of course had spent a fortune, safeguarding the colony, but no, it was not to be recouped in the form of a little mild taxation, t ...[text shortened]... erica, if you can forget about us torching the whitehouse, we can forget about your little tiff!
04 Jul 09
Originally posted by robbie carrobieYou do realize that tax rates in the UK are presently higher than the US, don't you?
dear friends, today Americans are celebrating, independence day, a sorry day at that, for if it were not for those miscreant Bostonians complaining about a little taxation, who knows what may have transpired. The British of course had spent a fortune, safeguarding the colony, but no, it was not to be recouped in the form of a little mild taxation, t ...[text shortened]... erica, if you can forget about us torching the whitehouse, we can forget about your little tiff!
04 Jul 09
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Originally posted by rwingettanswer the question my friend, are you any less taxed now than under the benevolent arm of the British government.
The level of taxation is not relevant. The problem was that they had taxation without representation. Now, this being a representative democracy, they have representation.
04 Jul 09
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Originally posted by no1marauderLol, what about the generous welfare system, is that not benevolent, those who cannot meet the minimum criteria which the government states a person needs to live upon are given the deficit in cash, child care is also paid for, etc etc etc.
Yes. And there is no "benevolent" arm of the British government.
04 Jul 09
Originally posted by no1marauderok let us compare, shall we, I am a self employed person, i can earn up to 6,000 pounds without taxation, after which i must pay 10 pence in the pound, up until i earn 35,000 pounds, all i need to pay, legally on top of that is 2 pounds per week national insurance contributions, are you taxed less than that, don't you have state taxation, federal taxation, personal taxation etc tec tec?
Personal, yes.
Corporate, I don't know.
04 Jul 09
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Originally posted by robbie carrobieI'm not wasting my time talking about what YOUR tax incidence is. Personal tax rates in the US are lower than the UK - do some Googling - I'm tired of doing research for others on this site. Overall tax incidence is apparently about the same though my understanding is that the UK system is more regressive.
ok let us compare, shall we, I am a self employed person, i can earn up to 6,000 pounds without taxation, after which i must pay 10 pence in the pound, up until i earn 35,000 pounds, all i need to pay, legally on top of that is 2 pounds per week national insurance contributions, are you taxed less than that, don't you have state taxation, federal taxation, personal taxation etc tec tec?
EDIT:UK - Total taxation as a proportion of national income jumped by a full percentage point to 37.4 during 2006, the Organisation of Economic Development said.
http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/tax/article.html?in_article_id=425422&in_page_id=11
04 Jul 09
Originally posted by robbie carrobieSince when does the UK have a "generous" welfare system?
Lol, what about the generous welfare system, is that not benevolent, those who cannot meet the minimum criteria which the government states a person needs to live upon are given the deficit in cash, child care is also paid for, etc etc etc.
04 Jul 09
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Originally posted by robbie carrobieWe paid you back by saving your butts in ww1 and ww2. Plus that I think we are pretty much under the same deal anyway. Canada is for sure.
dear friends, today Americans are celebrating, independence day, a sorry day at that, for if it were not for those miscreant Bostonians complaining about a little taxation, who knows what may have transpired. The British of course had spent a fortune, safeguarding the colony, but no, it was not to be recouped in the form of a little mild taxation, t ...[text shortened]... erica, if you can forget about us torching the whitehouse, we can forget about your little tiff!
04 Jul 09
Originally posted by KazetNagorraare you a resident of the U.K, if so, you can have your housing paid for you through hosing benefit, you can have child care paid for you, there is all sort of benefits, working tax credit, family tax credit if you are in employment, and you are eligible, you can receive free medical care, including dentistry and optical treatment.
Since when does the UK have a "generous" welfare system?