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As most of us know, Hillary Clinton's e mails have been the source of one investigation after another for over 2 years now. The right wing has been insisting she's guilty, while the left wing has been saying "guilty of what?" I'd like some opinions from the folks like sh76 who have better legal knowledge than I on this. Is sending government information on one's private e mail address a crime? Frankly, I don't know.😕
29 Aug 15
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Originally posted by utherpendragonWhat subsection in that law do you think is remotely related to what Hilary did?
We shall see.
Its not looking good for her but then again the Clintons always seem to weasel there way out of crimes.
Politically it has certainly hurt her, but right wingers dreaming of prison time are deluding themselves.
29 Aug 15
Originally posted by no1marauder
What subsection in that law do you think is remotely related to what Hilary did?
Politically it has certainly hurt her, but right wingers dreaming of prison time are deluding themselves.
(f) Whoever, being entrusted with or having lawful possession or control of any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, note, or information, relating to the national defense,
(1) through gross negligence permits the same to be removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of his trust, or to be lost, stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, or
(2) having knowledge that the same has been illegally removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of its trust, or lost, or stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, and fails to make prompt report of such loss, theft, abstraction, or destruction to his superior officer—
Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.
If you are referring to me as "right winger" I do not think for a minute she will go to jail. She very likely could lose the nomination that she feels she so justly deserves.
29 Aug 15
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Originally posted by utherpendragonWho is it alleged received such material?
[quote] (f) Whoever, being entrusted with or having lawful possession or control of any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, note, or information, relating to the national defense,
(1) through gross negligence permits the same to be removed from i ...[text shortened]... ill go to jail. She very likely could lose the nomination that she feels she so justly deserves.
I certainly hope Hilary doesn't get the Democratic nomination; she's too cozy with Wall Street and too much of a foreign interventionist for my taste. But this e-mail non-scandal is just that.
29 Aug 15
Originally posted by no1marauderShe violated the rules of the State Department because she did not have a seperate State Department e-mail account for government business. However, since she was the head of the State Department at that time, maybe the rule did not apply to her. 😏
Who is it alleged received such material?
I certainly hope Hilary doesn't get the Democratic nomination; she's too cozy with Wall Street and too much of a foreign interventionist for my taste. But this e-mail non-scandal is just that.
29 Aug 15
Originally posted by bill718I believe the point is that like other high ranking government officials, Hillary Clinton was supplied with a secure government owned and operated server, for her official communications. That process assured that anything she said or wrote as our representative would be saved, and appropriately available for either commendation or accusation, for example regarding Benghazi. the danger of her private server is that of personal and official communications being blended, and perhaps intentionally or accidentally being deleted.
As most of us know, Hillary Clinton's e mails have been the source of one investigation after another for over 2 years now. The right wing has been insisting she's guilty, while the left wing has been saying "guilty of what?" I'd like some opinions from the folks like sh76 who have better legal knowledge than I on this. Is sending government information on one's private e mail address a crime? Frankly, I don't know.😕
At the very least, it carries an implication of intent to hide, and a degree of irresponsibility on the security of her communications. As a Presidential candidate, one has to wonder if she would do the same thing in that role.
Originally posted by bill718Is Hillary guilty?
As most of us know, Hillary Clinton's e mails have been the source of one investigation after another for over 2 years now. The right wing has been insisting she's guilty, while the left wing has been saying "guilty of what?" I'd like some opinions from the folks like sh76 who have better legal knowledge than I on this. Is sending government information on one's private e mail address a crime? Frankly, I don't know.😕
Does anyone seriously care? I mean, it's not like someone with as much money and power as Hillary will ever be held accountable for anything.
Even Progs like Marauder concede that Obama has also broken the law. Specifically, he admitted that Obama defied the War Powers Act by not notifying Congress about the war after so many days engaged at war. Obama simply said all the fighting was not a war to side step the law.
But the most aggravating aspect of that exchange was that Marauder had no inclination of holding Obama accountable. The standard reaction is that everyone at the top breaks laws. So what?
And so even though Marauder might possibly have agreed that this was "illegal", he would not have agreed that she be held accountable in any substantive way. After all, we must maintain the status quo.
01 Sep 15
Originally posted by whodeyWell Whodey, it looks like the legal experts feel Hillary is not guilty here. You might want to read this. This might be a lot of controversy about very little.
Is Hillary guilty?
Does anyone seriously care? I mean, it's not like someone with as much money and power as Hillary will ever be held accountable for anything.
Even Progs like Marauder concede that Obama has also broken the law. Specifically, he admitted that Obama defied the War Powers Act by not notifying Congress about the war after so many days e ...[text shortened]... hat she be held accountable in any substantive way. After all, we must maintain the status quo.
http://www.newsday.com/news/nation/hillary-clinton-won-t-see-charges-in-email-scandal-experts-say-1.10793118
01 Sep 15
Originally posted by bill718I think you will find legal experts continually grabbing their ankles to do the bidding of those in power, just like they did for Obama.
Well Whodey, it looks like the legal experts feel Hillary is not guilty here. You might want to read this. This might be a lot of controversy about very little.
http://www.newsday.com/news/nation/hillary-clinton-won-t-see-charges-in-email-scandal-experts-say-1.10793118
I remember when those that questioned the Constitutionality of Obamacare were scorned and ridiculed for doing so. Next thing you know, justice Roberts is doing legal gymnastics to try and make it somewhat Constitutional.
01 Sep 15
Originally posted by whodeyYou must be the most unapologetic liar I have ever dealt with.
Is Hillary guilty?
Does anyone seriously care? I mean, it's not like someone with as much money and power as Hillary will ever be held accountable for anything.
Even Progs like Marauder concede that Obama has also broken the law. Specifically, he admitted that Obama defied the War Powers Act by not notifying Congress about the war after so many days e ...[text shortened]... hat she be held accountable in any substantive way. After all, we must maintain the status quo.
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Originally posted by bill718It's possible that she committed some violation of some obscure section of federal law. Federal law is so broad and encompassing that we're all probably criminals in the broadest sense of the term (have you ever lied in an email during a financial transaction? wire fraud!)
As most of us know, Hillary Clinton's e mails have been the source of one investigation after another for over 2 years now. The right wing has been insisting she's guilty, while the left wing has been saying "guilty of what?" I'd like some opinions from the folks like sh76 who have better legal knowledge than I on this. Is sending government information on one's private e mail address a crime? Frankly, I don't know.😕
The odds of Hillary actually being convicted of a federal crime over email-gate are roughly the same, in my view, of her being struck by lightning while sitting in the oval office on a clear day.