24 Apr 09
Originally posted by FMFAnd me thinking it was time to let this thread fall. Thanks for rescuing me from apathy!
Aaaggghh. No! Seitse don't give in now! I've been watching this - and there's me thinking eljefejesus is all mouth and no trousers (and about 17 years old too) - so don't succumb to the internal logic of Communism, don't fall for Chavez's beerhall charm, don't deny or not deny whatever it is you might have not been denying about Mexico (that bit is harder to fol ...[text shortened]... and to, but we don't dare intervene. Get eljefejesus for me. Get him good. He hurt me.
I won't disappoint you, my dear, I won't. I'll avenge you!
*racetrack trumpets*
30 Apr 09
Originally posted by SeitseSo are you saying that a country has to grow so rapidly as to close the gap with rich countries in one presidential term... all without tough economic reforms?
Tedious and predictable.
Provide all the economic figures you want. Having a few families that control the wealth (including the world's 2nd richest man), the numbers look amazing... but that doesn't take away the [b]reality of the millions in misery, the MASSIVE drug dealing, the corruption, the chaos...
Have you ever lived in real Mexico, as a Mex ...[text shortened]... y, or a work or study assignment with comfort and the possibility to fly away at will.[/i][/b]
That is ridiculous. Of course Mexico has poverty and inequality, so does the rest of Latin America. However, the general trend is favorable and that is helped by smart policies such as those pursued by PAN government and blocked by PRD obstructionists.
Did you know that Mexico has less inequality than the ever-popular Brazil? I bet you'd rather live in Brazil just because Lula claims to represent the left though...
Only country that has greatly reduced poverty and grown rapidly is Chile, and they were only able to implement very tough economic reforms during a dictatorship. It's hard to reform an economy, as AMLO's protests at every reform shows....
30 Apr 09
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Originally posted by eljefejesusAs I said: Keep copy-pasting the president's webpage.
So are you saying that a country has to grow so rapidly as to close the gap with rich countries in one presidential term... all without tough economic reforms?
That is ridiculous. Of course Mexico has poverty and inequality, so does the rest of Latin America. However, the general trend is favorable and that is helped by smart policies such as those a dictatorship. It's hard to reform an economy, as AMLO's protests at every reform shows....
I am sure the Mexicans are delighted with the fantastic administration during the swine flu crisis, also with the lack of corruption, the zero violence on the streets, and other marvels.
What are you doing in the states if Mexico is so great?!
What a paradise Mexico is! Oh my, stupid me when I left such a jewel!
*bonks head on wall*
30 Apr 09
Originally posted by SeitseSeitse, you keep repeating your attack line that goes like: "oh you must be copy pasting from the pan website because the facts you cite don't make them out to be the corrupt demons that amlo says they are."
As I said: Keep copy-pasting the president's webpage.
I am sure the Mexicans are delighted with the fantastic administration during the swine flu crisis, also with the lack of corruption, the zero violence on the streets, and other marvels.
What are you doing in the states if Mexico is so great?!
What a paradise Mexico is! Oh my, stupid me when I left such a jewel!
*bonks head on wall*
Did you ever try citing a line from their website that you've even referred to on this cite to support what you're implying? I saw the government website that you linked to and again I was disappointed by your failure to back up your attacks with facts. What exactly did I quote, according to you?
You also need to learn the difference between the extremes of currently a cestpool/paradise and acknowledgement of the changing direction of a country that has suffered from slow growth for several decades under PRI rule (also the party that allowed drug gangs to get out of hand).
I've already addressed your attack line that my analysis of Mexico's economy must confine me to live where I was born rather than where I grew up (a situation that was heavily influenced by others when I was a child, by the way).
You know what's really sad, though? It seems you sore-losers that wanted AMLO to win take joy at the tradgedies in Mexico. Why? You want wiping out power drug cartels to be difficult? You revel in the tradgedy of swine flue? Aren't you taking your literary quote about criticizing your government just a little too far? I criticize policy moves when they deserve criticisms. You look for criticisms to make against the party you don't like. I give credit where credit is due. You say cestpool or paradise, live there or hate it... just illogical. Work on that.