I have said before that Israel is a puppet of the western empire, but could the tail be wagging the dog? Many have said the the Israel lobby has a powerful influence on the US political system. Is Israel a parasite using the USA as a puppet?
https://rumble.com/v3t1r1z-america-is-very-easy-to-influence-says-benjamin-netanyahu.html
Who is influencing who? Does the USA control Israel or does Israel control the USA?
One of the reasons I am convinced Israel is a puppet of the western empire is this:
For the first two decades after independence, Israel’s primary foreign ally was France, which supplied almost all of its major weapons including planes, tanks and ships as well as building the nuclear plant from which it developed atomic weapons.
I would have to accept France was a puppet of Israel too. It makes much more sense that France is part of the western empire. Since Napoleon's defeat France has helped the British Empire fight a lot of wars. The USA has helped the British Empire fight wars since WW1. The USA must have forged an alliance with the British Empire before WW1 at some point. Why else would the USA fight so hard to help France keep it's colony in Vietnam? The USA, UK and France are clearly not competitors. Neither are many of the British Empire's former colonies. Not so former in my opinion. It is best to have colonies that claim to be independent while serving the empire.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Eyes
@metal-brain saidJust like how people become friends and help each other, countries do the same. They are called allies. Alliances form between people who have common or compatible interests, lifestyles, culture, etc. This is a good thing, and it is the reason why there is peace in most parts of the world. Among warring countries they lack these qualities that make peace. The lifestyle of Jews is compatible with the west and some other eastern countries. They are allies. There are no puppets or parasites among allies.
One of the reasons I am convinced Israel is a puppet of the western empire is this:
For the first two decades after independence, Israel’s primary foreign ally was France, which supplied almost all of its major weapons including planes, tanks and ships as well as building the nuclear plant from which it developed atomic weapons.
I would have to accept France was a ...[text shortened]... s that claim to be independent while serving the empire.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Eyes
@rajk999 saidCan you explain what these "compatible interests" are?
Just like how people become friends and help each other, countries do the same. They are called allies. Alliances form between people who have common or compatible interests, lifestyles, culture, etc. This is a good thing, and it is the reason why there is peace in most parts of the world. Among warring countries they lack these qualities that make peace. The lifestyle of ...[text shortened]... and some other eastern countries. They are allies. There are no puppets or parasites among allies.
Are you claiming Cuba and the Philippines was never a colony of the USA?
You seem to be in denial that colonies exist anymore. It is as if you think that is a thing of the past, but I suspect that you will believe the Russians control puppet governments just like you believe Russia is an evil empire like Reagan claimed in the 80s.
Why did Reagan invade Grenada? Is it because Grenada was allies with Cuba? If there are no puppets or parasites among allies, why did Reagan invade Grenada and arm the Contras to fight the Sandinistas in Nicaragua? Was Reagan paranoid for thinking they were puppets of the USSR? Should he have been put in a straight jacket and locked in a rubber room?
@metal-brain saidWhy would I need to explain anything? If 2 people are friends then I dont care to explain further. Its a good thing. The only people who find this not good are those envious people sitting on the sidelines whose lives are probably in a mess.
Can you explain what these "compatible interests" are?
Are you claiming Cuba and the Philippines was never a colony of the USA?
You seem to be in denial that colonies exist anymore. It is as if you think that is a thing of the past, but I suspect that you will believe the Russians control puppet governments just like you believe Russia is an evil empire like Reagan clai ...[text shortened]... were puppets of the USSR? Should he have been put in a straight jacket and locked in a rubber room?
Reagan assisted Grenada because the Cubans were setting up a communist regime there against the wishes of the people. Same with many parts of the world where people take over the govt without free and fair democratic process.
It happened here as well. Back in 1990 a fundamentailst Islamic Group took over the govt. Thankfully the US warships arrived in our port a couple days after in case we needed help. The fool who took over said that all schools will be turned into Islamic schools and all people will have to serve Allah etc etc,... you know the usual nonsense. I dislike fundamentalists Muslims and I am thankful Israel is removing some from the planet. Anyway we got it sorted out, no doubt the idiot realised that the US was nearby and he backed off.
@rajk999 saidThere are no personal friendships between countries. There are interests. Even if there are friends help each other. I don't see Israel helping the USA except to be the empire's attack dog in the middle east. Aside from that obvious reason what else?
Why would I need to explain anything? If 2 people are friends then I dont care to explain further. Its a good thing. The only people who find this not good are those envious people sitting on the sidelines whose lives are probably in a mess.
Reagan assisted Grenada because the Cubans were setting up a communist regime there against the wishes of the people. Same with ma ...[text shortened]... Anyway we got it sorted out, no doubt the idiot realised that the US was nearby and he backed off.
We all know the USA does a lot to help Israel. What does Israel do to help the American people? Supporting Israel created a terrorism problem for us you know. If Israel is not a puppet it must be a parasite. Why else would we be sending them money when they have universal healthcare and we don't? They are living better than we are. Shouldn't they be sending us money so we can have universal healthcare?
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"Reagan assisted Grenada because the Cubans were setting up a communist regime there against the wishes of the people. Same with many parts of the world where people take over the govt without free and fair democratic process."
That is a conspiracy theory. Where is your evidence? Besides, it is an island. It did not border the USA. If that is a genuine threat to the USA than Ukraine must have been a lot more threatening to Russia since it is a bordering threat. I guess Putin was completely justified to invade Ukraine. The USA was setting up an imperialist regime on Russia's border. Far worse than a tiny island nowhere near the USA. Heck, our government will not even tolerate socialists in the western hemisphere. Just think of how freaked out they would be if Mexico became a socialist state.
Israel is either a puppet or a parasite. Which one is it? Why is Israel costing us so much damn money? If they are doing something good for us it better be petty damn good. What is it? Do you have an answer?
@metal-brain saidDid I use the word 'personal' friendships? Friendship / Allies.. that is what makes the world go round. I can seen clearly now why you do not understand what is going on in the world and you are always at odds to the way things work. Try to understand human nature. That will solve your problem, and you will see clearly why the Islamic world are friends of nobody, except stupid College students, queers and reactionaries who live in their mommys house.
There are no personal friendships between countries. There are interests. Even if there are friends help each other. I don't see Israel helping the USA except to be the empire's attack dog in the middle east. Aside from that obvious reason what else?
We all know the USA does a lot to help Israel. What does Israel do to help the American people? Supporting Israel create ...[text shortened]... e living better than we are. Shouldn't they be sending us money so we can have universal healthcare?
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@rajk999 saidBINGO!!!
Did I use the word 'personal' friendships? Friendship / Allies.. that is what makes the world go round. I can seen clearly now why you do not understand what is going on in the world and you are always at odds to the way things work. Try to understand human nature. That will solve your problem, and you will see clearly why the Islamic world are friends of nobody, except stupid College students, queers and reactionaries who live in their mommys house.
@rajk999 saidFriends help each other. Israel is not helping. If they are tell me what Israel is doing for us.
Did I use the word 'personal' friendships? Friendship / Allies.. that is what makes the world go round. I can seen clearly now why you do not understand what is going on in the world and you are always at odds to the way things work. Try to understand human nature. That will solve your problem, and you will see clearly why the Islamic world are friends of nobody, except stupid College students, queers and reactionaries who live in their mommys house.
https://www.redhotpawn.com/forum/debates/what-has-israel-done-for-us.198067/page-12#post_4709982
@metal-brain saidI can tell you dont have friends.
Friends help each other. Israel is not helping. If they are tell me what Israel is doing for us.
https://www.redhotpawn.com/forum/debates/what-has-israel-done-for-us.198067/page-12#post_4709982
@metal-brain saidYou keep asking the same stupid questions. If 2 allies are getting along, only 2 of them need to understand what it is they are getting out of the relationship. Good decent people will be happy there is peace. Only trouble-makers like you will find a problem with that.
With friends like Israel who needs enemies?
What is Israel doing for us?
https://www.redhotpawn.com/forum/debates/what-has-israel-done-for-us.198067/page-12#post_4709982
I am pleased when there is peace and happiness and I enjoy it while it lasts. Try to be like me.
@rajk999 saidMetal Brain is an American and you are not so shouldn't HE be the one who understands, not you?
You keep asking the same stupid questions. If 2 allies are getting along, only 2 of them need to understand what it is they are getting out of the relationship. Good decent people will be happy there is peace. Only trouble-makers like you will find a problem with that.
I am pleased when there is peace and happiness and I enjoy it while it lasts. Try to be like me.