Of course I am saddened by this news, but what would the response be I wonder if they traded places? In fact, what would be the Palestinian reaction if the Jews outnumbered them and began to migrate back into Gaza? Would they consider them a threat just because they are Jews? My guess would be, yes.
Originally posted by randolphAs long as the Arab world is as it is, my statement is justified. When they reject violence and control those who would do violence, then things will change. As long as the Arab world is a world of violence, all Arabs in Israel represent a very dangerous threat.
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Originally posted by EladarBut you're talking about Israel wanting to get rid of Arab Israelis. And, as I pointed out before, Arab Israelis are Israeli citizens. Doesn't that make what you are suggesting completely impossible? How would it work?
As long as the Arab world is as it is, my statement is justified. When they reject violence and control those who would do violence, then things will change. As long as the Arab world is a world of violence, all Arabs in Israel represent a very dangerous threat.
Arab Israelis are Arabs and would like to see Jewish Israelis killed just as much as any other Arabs. Until the Arab world changes, Arabs are Arabs no matter the nationality.
How would it work? That same way it works when Jews get deported in countries like Lybia.
Originally posted by EladarYou're completely deranged if you actually believe such a thing.
Arab Israelis are Arabs and would like to see Jewish Israelis killed just as much as any other Arabs. Until the Arab world changes, Arabs are Arabs no matter the nationality.
How would it work? That same way it works when Jews get deported in countries like Lybia.
Since the formation of Israel in 1948, Arabs within the borders have had full rights to Israeli citizenship. Not quite the same as Israeli's might have been treated in any of the surrounding Arab states.
Other than being critical of Israeli proposals, what do you propose to stem the tide of suicide bombings and retaliatory air strikes?
Do the surrounding Arab states have any responsibility in this? Has one of them ever proposed giving up some land for a Palestinian state?
Originally posted by EladarYou might want to try different wording. Perhaps "all Arabs represent a potential threat."
All Arabs are threats.
If Israel wants to get rid of them or in some way seperate them from the rest of the Israeli population, I'm fine with it.
Clearly, some may be perfectly loyal to the Israeli government, and love their Jewish neighbors.
Those of us in relatively "safe" nations, might consider how we might feel and react to decades of suicide bombings in common public venues such as buses, pizza parlors, public markets, and night clubs.
In the US, we freaked out after a single major terror attack. If we had one year with attacks as common as they've been in Israel for decades there would be similar proposals here as well.
I don't like the notion of ever accepting the "lesser of two evils". It's the same as choosing the lesser of two blunders in chess. Find a good move! I don't know what that is for the Israelis.
Originally posted by normbenignSo you are suggesting that Arab Israelis are in some way to blame for the tide of suicide bombings and retaliatory air strikes? Can you substantiate this insinuation? And are you proposing that Arab Israelis are stripped of their citizenship and rights because the surrounding Arab states have never proposed giving up some land for a Palestinian state? Isn't that a rather odd leap of logic there? Your post is very unclear - you seem not to want to talk about Arab Israelis but just want to talk about "Arabs" in the same way as the ludicrous Eladar does. And who were you addressing with your post, anyway? Me specifically? Or opponents of ethnic cleansing generally?
Other than being critical of Israeli proposals, what do you propose to stem the tide of suicide bombings and retaliatory air strikes? [...] Has [any of the surrounding Arab states] ever proposed giving up some land for a Palestinian state?
Originally posted by FMFI suspect they idea comes from the written and spoken words of Arabs. Usually those we see and read are those of the most aggressively violent factions. It would be a mistake to presume that every Arab is in agreement.
Where exactly did you get this idea from? Was it a web site? A pamphlet?
On the other hand, the "moderate" Arabs tend to be silent in expressing any opposition or argument against the rhetoric of jihad and hate of the most extreme.
Here in the US, hate groups exist, and if the majority of white people didn't speak out against the hate rhetoric of such groups, then it might be presumed that those silent were in agreement. In fact during the '40s and '50s in the deep south that was the case. There and in the middle east, there is an element of fear among moderates. fear of speaking out against extremism and hate, fear that they may be lumped in with those hated. That is a rational fear, as many early civil rights workers lost their lives, and many moderate Arabs have been declared infidels.