21 Dec 21
@vivify saidI don't know. We're all in the state of not knowing when we're going to die. Which is worse, counting down 18 days or living each day with a hope for the next? I'm not completely sure one way or the other.
The U.S. has laws against "cruel and unusual punishment" for a reason. That reason is the belief that despite the severity of a crime, the criminal is still a human being and should be treated as such.
Keeping someone in the dark, potentially for years, about when they're going to die, only to announce it the day of, naturally causes each day to be filled with anxiety an ...[text shortened]... their neck, this system seems pretty cruel for what's supposed to be a modern and advanced society.
If done properly, hanging snaps the upper spinal cord upon the fall and death is virtually instantaneous. Aside from the optics, it seems like one of the most humane methods of execution, if properly executed (so to speak).
@vivifyI'm pretty shocked this happens in Japan. I thought they were more advanced and civilized than China.
These were the first executions in Japan in two years. Since the execution of the Aum Shinrikyo terrorists in the summer of 2018, a mere eight people have been put to death in Japan, all for multiple murder.
By contrast China executes thousands yearly, for a range of crimes.
These guys finding out they're going to be executed right before Christmas.
Japan is not a Christian country, so Christmas does not have any profound importance there.
@teinosuke saidThey still celebrate Christmas, just like how we celebrate Halloween without any "profound importance" regarding dead saints.
Japan is not a Christian country, so Christmas does not have any profound importance there.
I agree with you about China. It was unfair to compare them and Japan.
21 Dec 21
@quackquack saidI remember being taught in one particular class that the death penalty is not a deterrent to capital crimes, they don't give a crap. I guess that is true, though I did not believe it at the time. Two of our brothers were killed by another one in Chicago last night, and one was killed in a posh movie theater in Atlanta. Must've had a good reason, and prob was not worried about the electric chair.
These individuals presumably committed brutal murders and did not give their victims prior notice that they were about do die in an inhumane manner. They also knew that in their society capital punishment is a possibility. I'm not sure why a countdown clock until their time of your death is more humane or a courtesy the inmate deserves.
21 Dec 21
@vivify saidI literally think the last thing in the world you should worry about is being cruel to someone who was convicted of burning people alive. I find it bizarre that there are no calls to show sympathy to those who disagree us on abortion, gun control, or vaccine mandates but there are calls for the sympathy of these individuals.
The U.S. has laws against "cruel and unusual punishment" for a reason. That reason is the belief that despite the severity of a crime, the criminal is still a human being and should be treated as such.
Keeping someone in the dark, potentially for years, about when they're going to die, only to announce it the day of, naturally causes each day to be filled with anxiety an ...[text shortened]... their neck, this system seems pretty cruel for what's supposed to be a modern and advanced society.
21 Dec 21
@quackquack saidThey can't answer logic. Don't look for much. At least they have mis-guided emotion to carry them through their not-arguments.
I literally think the last thing in the world you should worry about is being cruel to someone who was convicted of burning people alive. I find it bizarre that there are no calls to show sympathy to those who disagree us on abortion, gun control, or vaccine mandates but there are calls for the sympathy of these individuals.
21 Dec 21
@quackquack saidOh please. Are you on death row for your beliefs? Don't martyr yourself.
I literally think the last thing in the world you should worry about is being cruel to someone who was convicted of burning people alive. I find it bizarre that there are no calls to show sympathy to those who disagree us on abortion, gun control, or vaccine mandates but there are calls for the sympathy of these individuals.
21 Dec 21
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@vivify saidThey eat KFC for Christmas over there I'm told
They still celebrate Christmas, just like how we celebrate Halloween without any "profound importance" regarding dead saints.
I agree with you about China. It was unfair to compare them and Japan.
21 Dec 21
@vivify said1. These people are not on death row for their beliefs. They are being executed because they burned people to death. The fact that you are more upset by those who advocate ideas that are contrary to yours more than those who brutally murder is shocking.
Oh please. Are you on death row for your beliefs? Don't martyr yourself.
2. I'm not sure why it matters but I am not an anti vaxer (I am fully vaccinated with boosters and have no problem with mandates), I support gun control and abortions rights. But, I certainly have more sympathy for those who disagree with me on issues such as these than for those who are convicted of brutal crimes.
21 Dec 21
@quackquack saidFind one post. Just one post that I've made that even remotely supports your assertion.
The fact that you are more upset by those who advocate ideas that are contrary to yours more than those who brutally murder is shocking.
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@averagejoe1 saidFact of the matter is; people
I assume you find capital punishment not acceptable. I don't fault you, not crazy about it myself, but what should we do with a person who gouges out the eyes of your 22 year old daughter, stabs her to death, and throws her in the city dump? Execute him like he did her?
with money NEVER get
The Death Penalty....
''....Money can't buy you love but,
it can buy you a good defense attorney....''
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https://www.fidh.org/en/issues/death-penalty/the-death-penalty-a-punishment-for-the-poor
https://okcadp.org/public-education/educational-resources/facts-about-the-death-penalty/
https://www.therichest.com/rich-list/10-innocent-people-who-were-sentenced-to-death/
21 Dec 21
@vivify saidDoesn’t surprise me at all.
https://www.al.com/news/2021/12/japan-hangs-3-inmates-in-first-executions-since-2019.html
Japan hanged three people, and it turns out their executions are all done in secret: prisoners are not informed of their fate until the morning they are hanged. Some death-row inmates are suing the Japanese government, saying that it causes serious mental stress and anxiety not knowin ...[text shortened]... m pretty shocked this happens in Japan. I thought they were more advanced and civilized than China.
A nation in which men spend money to buy used knickers and teenagers lock themselves in bedrooms for years, is the sort of nation which would spring death sentences on people like a game show.
However, I would presume a judge decides and that inmates have a chance to appeal.
Which makes the story slightly unbelievable…
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@dood111 saidDOO, Do you ALWAYS LIE?
I read somewhere that prisoners on death row are kept in isolation in a room with a bed and a chair. During the day they are not allowed to lay on the bed and have to sit in the chair all day in silence, waiting for the door to open and be led out and hanged. It can go on for years.
You did not, ''....read this somewhere
This is WRONG, UNTRUE,
a PREVARICATION..... ðŸ˜
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@averagejoe1 saidFact is, twins have identical DNA.
Not being picky, but your second paragraph does not jibe with the first, in that someone in your second paragraph, though convicted, may be innocent. Maybe his twin did it!!
https://www.therichest.com/rich-list/10-innocent-people-who-were-sentenced-to-death/