John Stewart Gun Debate with GOP Senator

@boonon said
Out of all of that rambling you just did I agree with one thing. If there is risk to the mother then she should have the option to kill her baby to save herself.

good, you won't cross that line.

how about in the case of rape. Do you think a woman should be allowed to abort the child the rapist forced upon her?

@vivify said
Congrats, you've made the dumbest post in this thread.

You're saying don't make laws because criminals won't obey them. Why have laws about rape when criminals will still rape, right?

You'll use any absurd argument to attack having better gun laws.

Congrats, you don't seem to understand that we have plenty of gun laws. I never, ever said that we don't need any. I am saying that new gun laws on top of the thousands that my state has will not be followed by criminals. All you do is punish the legal gun owners who FOLLOW the gun laws already established. I will ask you the same question I asked Z>> What is the opposite of ABOVE me ????

@zahlanzi said
good, you won't cross that line.

how about in the case of rape. Do you think a woman should be allowed to abort the child the rapist forced upon her?

That is a tougher question for me. I believe that statistically the amount of abortions from rape is very, very low. I still believe that the un born child has rights, but I also realize that the mother does also. I have a first cousin who was born by her mother from that exact scenario. Of course it was my aunts choice to choose to have her daughter. One of my problems with abortion on demand is that women these days use it as birth control. They can and should use protection and should insist that the man does also. Killing an un born child out of convenience for the mother is wrong.

@zahlanzi said
good, you won't cross that line.

how about in the case of rape. Do you think a woman should be allowed to abort the child the rapist forced upon her?

Yes. AvJoe

@boonon said
Congrats, you don't seem to understand that we have plenty of gun laws. I never, ever said that we don't need any. I am saying that new gun laws on top of the thousands that my state has will not be followed by criminals. All you do is punish the legal gun owners who FOLLOW the gun laws already established. I will ask you the same question I asked Z>> What is the opposite of ABOVE me ????

"Congrats, you don't seem to understand that we have plenty of gun laws."
You absolutely don't. The ones you do have aren't universal, each backward state is free to do whatever the fuk they want. There are no gun laws when you can cross state lines, go to a redneck gun show and buy guns from rednecks in the parkin lot.

"I am saying that new gun laws on top of the thousands that my state has will not be followed by criminals."
That can also be said about everything else, yet we do have laws in place and we often create new ones. Why have drug laws.

Just now the republican nutjobs are screaming for anti trans laws or anti abortion laws? Why, since they won't be followed by criminals?

@zahlanzi said
"Congrats, you don't seem to understand that we have plenty of gun laws."
You absolutely don't. The ones you do have aren't universal, each backward state is free to do whatever the fuk they want. There are no gun laws when you can cross state lines, go to a redneck gun show and buy guns from rednecks in the parkin lot.

"I am saying that new gun laws on top of the thous ...[text shortened]... screaming for anti trans laws or anti abortion laws? Why, since they won't be followed by criminals?

Your retort makes no sense at all.

@zahlanzi said
good, you won't cross that line.

how about in the case of rape. Do you think a woman should be allowed to abort the child the rapist forced upon her?

What line will you not cross? Are you ok with abortion at 9 months? are you for killing a child that survives an abortion? where exactly do you stand on the timeline of abortion?

@boonon said
That is a tougher question for me. I believe that statistically the amount of abortions from rape is very, very low. I still believe that the un born child has rights, but I also realize that the mother does also. I have a first cousin who was born by her mother from that exact scenario. Of course it was my aunts choice to choose to have her daughter. One of my problems with a ...[text shortened]... insist that the man does also. Killing an un born child out of convenience for the mother is wrong.

"That is a tougher question for me. I believe that statistically the amount of abortions from rape is very, very low."
So it's not your concern? What is your point? Statistically the amount of all crimes are very very low.

"I still believe that the un born child has rights, but I also realize that the mother does also."
Ignoring for a moment that an unborn child totally doesn't, who takes precedence? What other example do you have where you're allowed to deprive someone of their freedom, who has committed no crime, for the sake of another? Are you allowed to force me to donate blood to someone else?

"One of my problems with abortion on demand is that women these days use it as birth control."
Are you lobbying your lawmakers to allow planned parenthood to give out birth control? Are you supporting birth control be provided free of charge as an essential item of female healthcare? If yes, at least you're consistent. If no, you're a hypocrite


"Killing an un born child out of convenience for the mother is wrong."
Forcing a woman to carry a pregnancy to term against her will is wrong. Removing what is basically a parasite is not.

@boonon said
What line will you not cross? Are you ok with abortion at 9 months? are you for killing a child that survives an abortion? where exactly do you stand on the timeline of abortion?

"Are you ok with abortion at 9 months?"
There are no abortions at 9 months. Nobody ever aborted a viable baby that could be put in an incubator

"are you for killing a child that survives an abortion?"
Wtf are you talking about? That's actually a child, not a fetus. We have laws for that.

"where exactly do you stand on the timeline of abortion?"
A woman has the right to take an unwanted bundle of cells out of her own body at any point she chooses. It's her body. She can donate a kidney, she can cut her hair and she can take out something she doesn't want in her uterus. No woman of sane mind has decided at 8 months that the pregnancy is just not that fun, she has a beach party to go to and she just wants to cut her very healthy and viable baby into pieces as you so glibly put it.

@boonon said
Congrats, you don't seem to understand that we have plenty of gun laws. I never, ever said that we don't need any. I am saying that new gun laws on top of the thousands that my state has will not be followed by criminals. All you do is punish the legal gun owners who FOLLOW the gun laws already established. I will ask you the same question I asked Z>> What is the opposite of ABOVE me ????

You say there are "plenty" of gun laws. Guess what? There are also plenty of Republicans fighting to loosen those laws.

What gun owner is "punished" by having background checks? What gun owner is "punished" by having registration for guns and bullets?

Answer: none.

Yet conservatives like yourself keep opposing such measures.

@boonon said
Your retort makes no sense at all.

Oh so eloquently debated. I am defeated.

Are you 5?

@zahlanzi said
"Are you ok with abortion at 9 months?"
There are no abortions at 9 months. Nobody ever aborted a viable baby that could be put in an incubator

"are you for killing a child that survives an abortion?"
Wtf are you talking about? That's actually a child, not a fetus. We have laws for that.

"where exactly do you stand on the timeline of abortion?"
A woman has the righ ...[text shortened]... o to and she just wants to cut her very healthy and viable baby into pieces as you so glibly put it.

The gov of Virginia on video said that a woman could decide after the ‘fetus’ is outside her body whether to kill it or not.

The reasons to abort a baby of rape? No 1, you should naturally eviscerate any thing in the womb within just a few weeks, or, a day. Number 2, we should know from whence the baby comes, and, so should the victim.

@zahlanzi said
Oh so eloquently debated. I am defeated.

Are you 5?

I assume not, but you are a low life that does not value human life

@zahlanzi said
Oh so eloquently debated. I am defeated.

Are you 5?

I am also at work so my time to try and make you see that life is valuable is short. Wednesday I will have all day to show you your errors on the so called facts you think you have stated

@zahlanzi said
Oh so eloquently debated. I am defeated.

Are you 5?

That would make you 4 zahlooney bamboozle, are you 4?