29 Jan 10
Originally posted by adam warlock..and some people still take him in a good light. 😞
Despicable guys too.
But Kissinger was a despicable low life criminal and some people still take him in a good light. 😞
I don't need to say anything about the guys you mentioned because everyone knows their sins but on Kissinger most people don't even dream on what that guy was up too.
the same happens with mao.
30 Jan 10
Originally posted by generalissimoI'm a proud American and while this thread is rooted in contempt for my nation (I'm familiar with FMF's style by now) it's still a legitimate question. Mao is off topic.
[b]..and some people still take him in a good light. 😞
the same happens with mao.[/b]
30 Jan 10
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Originally posted by AThousandYoungWhere's the contempt for your nation in this thread?
I'm a proud American and while this thread is rooted in contempt for my nation (I'm familiar with FMF's style by now) it's still a legitimate question. Mao is off topic.
Edit: a little bit on Nixon: http://www.johnpilger.com/page.asp?partid=553
30 Jan 10
I nominate Donald Rumsfeld. Sent over as Reagan's special envoy to Iraq in 1984, he gave Saddam a big hug, then arranged for Iraq to be taken off the embargo lists so we could trade with them at the same time they were invading Iran and using poison gas against the Iranians and Kurds. Of course, he was also part of the group that was involved in selling advanced weaponry to Iran to be used against Iraq as part of the funding scheme to support the mercenary war against Nicaragua. And that's just the 80s!
30 Jan 10
Originally posted by AThousandYoungThe "legitimate question" in the OP is rooted in my interest in History and politics and posed for a forum dominated by Americans, many of whom want only to talk about America.
I'm a proud American and while this thread is rooted in contempt for my nation (I'm familiar with FMF's style by now) it's still a legitimate question. Mao is off topic.
Contempt for someone like Henry Kissinger is not the same as contempt for "your nation". I criticize Soeharto, Indonesian dictator for 30 years, and do so every time his name is mentioned, but does that mean I have contempt for Indonesia? I have been critical of Hamas and Zionism, consistently so: does that mean I have contempt for Palestinians and for Jews? Maybe it does in ATYWorld, who knows?
I accentuate the positive in debates where accentuating the positive is the appropriate point to make in that debate. If you want people to conform to some kind of set of uniformly positive opinions that do not mess with your emotions as a "proud American", why don't you start a thread and lay all these 'acceptable perspectives' out, and have people demonstrate the extent or lack of their transnational fealty to "your nation" and then smear them with charges of being 'contemptuous' if they disappoint you?