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https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/10/20/aclu-asks-top-us-court-to-review-law-against-boycotting-israel

ACLU asks top US court to review law against boycotting Israel

A top civil rights group in the United States has asked the Supreme Court to review a lower court’s ruling that upheld an Arkansas state law penalising companies that boycott Israel.

The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) filed a petition on Thursday asking the top court to take up the case, arguing the Appeals Court decision violates the First Amendment of the US Constitution, which protects the right to free speech.

In June, the appeals court ruled in favour of the law, saying boycotts fall under commercial activity, not “expressive conduct” guaranteed by the First Amendment.

The law follows similar measures passed by dozens of US states to curtail the Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions (BDS) movement, which pushes to pressure Israel through non-violent means to end abuses against Palestinians.

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https://bdsmovement.net/

The "boycott Israel" movement has gained a lot of traction, including when Steven Hawking refused to attend a conference in Israel out of protest for their treatment of Palestinians.

Both Republican and Democratic leaders have enacted policies to stop advocates of this movement. The Republican-dominated Arkansas state legislature is one, but also Andrew Cuomo, who said "if you boycott Israel, New York will boycott you":

https://www.politico.com/states/new-york/city-hall/story/2016/12/muted-release-of-and-mixed-reaction-to-cuomos-bds-blacklist-107815

Republicans also introduced an "Anti-Israel Boycott" act, claiming the aim was to stop anti-Semitism; they claimed the movement was anti-Semitic:

https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/5595?s=1&r=1

Under this act, a "violation" may have been punished with by going to prison.

Two questions: is this a violation of free speech, and is it anti-Semitic? I think the answer is clearly "no" to being anti-Semitic and clearly "yes" to being a violation of free speech.

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HHeHummmm. In my opinion,,

One does not need a rationale to justify why they want to boycott Israel. If they wish to boycott Israel
as a show of antisemitism, then so be it. Although, being fair here, the people that boycott Israel do so
because of Israel's complete mistreatment of the Palestinian people.

Not sure how "freedom of speech" enters into it, nor should it be needed.

EDIT TO ADD: I believe it to be unconstitutional for any state government to make such boycotts to Israel punishable by law.

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https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/10/24/groups-slam-us-states-crackdown-on-israel-boycotts

22 states have passed laws or implemented executive orders that target BDS activism.

Dickinson, a city in Texas, posted an application for hurricane relief funds that mandated applicants to sign an agreement promising they will not boycott Israel. The city cited a Texas law that prohibits state agencies from contracting companies that boycott Israel.

How is this not getting more media attention? Such laws are quite frightening. What if this law is applied to the US government? The Montgomery bus boycotts would've been illegal under such a law and blacks having to give up seats to whites would've continued.

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@earl-of-trumps said
HHeHummmm. In my opinion,,

One does not need a rationale to justify why they want to boycott Israel. If they wish to boycott Israel
as a show of antisemitism, then so be it. Although, being fair here, the people that boycott Israel do so
because of Israel's complete mistreatment of the Palestinian people.

Not sure how "freedom of speech" enters into it, nor ...[text shortened]... t to be unconstitutional for any state government to make such boycotts to Israel punishable by law.
There is more than anti-semitism as reason to boycott Israel. It being a disgusting apartheid regime is a good one.

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https://www.bis.doc.gov/index.php/enforcement/oac

Office of Antiboycott Compliance (OAC)

The Office of Antiboycott Compliance (OAC) within BIS is charged with administering and enforcing the Anti-Boycott Act of 2018, Part II of the Export Control Reform Act of 2018 (ECRA), and the antiboycott provisions set forth in Part 760 of the Export Administration Regulations.

These authorities discourage, and in some circumstances, prohibit U.S. companies from taking certain actions in furtherance or support of a boycott maintained by a foreign country against a country friendly to the United States (unsanctioned foreign boycott). U.S. companies must report to OAC their receipt of certain boycott-related requests for information designed to verify compliance with an unsanctioned foreign boycott. Prohibited activities include, inter alia, agreements by U.S. companies to refuse to do business with a boycotted country. . .

U.S. companies should report their receipt of requests to engage in boycott-related activities or to otherwise further or support an unsanctioned foreign boycott. If you have questions, please call (202) 482-2381 and leave a message for the Duty Officer or contact OAC by email.

This is utter madness.

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@vivify said
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/10/20/aclu-asks-top-us-court-to-review-law-against-boycotting-israel

ACLU asks top US court to review law against boycotting Israel

A top civil rights group in the United States has asked the Supreme Court to review a lower court’s ruling that upheld an Arkansas state law penalising companies that boycott Israel.

The ...[text shortened]... hich pushes to pressure Israel through non-violent means to end abuses against Palestinians.
Free market sorts everything out. Not happy buying products from Israel, then don't do it. Not happy dealing with people that deal with Israel, then don't do that either. Same goes for Cuba.

Edit: BTW I'm not equating the two, Id rather live in Israel and visit Cuba than the other way around. Socialists should visit Cuba however, and get off the goobermint approved track to see what their ideas have wrought.

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@vivify said
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/10/24/groups-slam-us-states-crackdown-on-israel-boycotts

[quote]22 states have passed laws or implemented executive orders that target BDS activism.

Dickinson, a city in Texas, posted an application for hurricane relief funds that mandated applicants to sign an agreement promising they will not boycott Israel. The city cited a Texas la ...[text shortened]... ld've been illegal under such a law and blacks having to give up seats to whites would've continued.
Such laws are quite frightening, is right.

Rosa Parks refuses to go to the back of the bus... that's racism!

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@zahlanzi said
There is more than anti-semitism as reason to boycott Israel. It being a disgusting apartheid regime is a good one.
Oh, I agree. But you know the routine,
Go to court and say you are boycotting Israel because of Israel's apartheid while Jews say it's because of your antisemitism,

Guess who's going to win that one.

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@wajoma said
Free market sorts everything out. Not happy buying products from Israel, then don't do it. Not happy dealing with people that deal with Israel, then don't do that either. Same goes for Cuba.

Edit: BTW I'm not equating the two, Id rather live in Israel and visit Cuba than the other way around. Socialists should visit Cuba however, and get off the goobermint approved track to see what their ideas have wrought.
Very good up, @wajoma, free market.

and as you can see, some nazis don't like free market because they can't control it.

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@earl-of-trumps said
Very good up, @wajoma, free market.

and as you can see, some nazis don't like free market because they can't control it.
Yeah, the free market blows roses out its arse and smells like fairies. Works every time.

Oh. No. Wait. It doesn’t. It leads to poverty and suffering for very many people.
Yeah. Great system. Keep it up.

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@shavixmir said
Yeah, the free market blows roses out its arse and smells like fairies. Works every time.

Oh. No. Wait. It doesn’t. It leads to poverty and suffering for very many people.
Yeah. Great system. Keep it up.
Shag doody for brains:

- Who would you like to force to trade with who?
- Who would you like to ban from trading with who?

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@wajoma said
Shag doody for brains:

- Who would you like to force to trade with who?
- Who would you like to ban from trading with who?
The kangaroo fukker returns, as retarded as ever.

Just look around the world and see where your Ayn Rand stupidity has got everyone.

We all see it.

Oh… here come the excuses…

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@shavixmir said
The kangaroo fukker returns, as retarded as ever.

Just look around the world and see where your Ayn Rand stupidity has got everyone.

We all see it.

Oh… here come the excuses…
EoT's accusation was correct, no reason can be given, it's just control for the sake of control.

By your own words shag doody, by your own words.

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@wajoma said
Shag doody for brains:

- Who would you like to force to trade with who?
- Who would you like to ban from trading with who?
The totally unfettered free market is a race to the bottom, good for shareholders 💩 for workers whose terms and conditions are eroded to the level of the most abused market on the planet.
Why do you suppose China is about to take over the world economy.

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