22 Jan 08
A fuller version of the video has now been posted on yutube. When the other policeman arrives, Gardner makes false claims about Massey's behaviour, massaey is referred to as a 'scumbag' and hthey both seem to be highly amused by the tasering. Basically, the polioce are generally on an ego-trip.
22 Jan 08
Originally posted by znshoWait, there's supposed to be a 10% grace on speed offences due to standard error which can exist in the radar equipment, it's not supposed to be taken as evidence unless the reported speeds error bars are beyond the legal local speed limit! What kind of crazy laws do they have in that cops country?!
Here's another one, even more completely unacceptable behaviour than in the Massey case.
Let's see how the 'Our police are wonderful and honest' brigade defend this obscene behaviour by an 'honest, non-violent, wonderful, rational' person of the law.
http://infowars.net/articles/december2007/051207Tased.htm
23 Jan 08
Originally posted by agrysonThey don't use radar anymore. It's a new system, but i don't remember what it's called, and all departments don't have it yet.
Wait, there's supposed to be a 10% grace on speed offences due to standard error which can exist in the radar equipment, it's not supposed to be taken as evidence unless the reported speeds error bars are beyond the legal local speed limit! What kind of crazy laws do they have in that cops country?!
Granny.
24 Jan 08
Originally posted by SquelchbelchYou miss the point. In a true democracy, Massey SHOULD HAVE the right to refuse to sign and the police SHOULD NOT have the right to arrest / use a taser or any other dangerous weapons in such a way or situation. It appears that Utah law allows a 28-year old, bigheaded thug called Gardner to inflict serious physical and verbal assault upon a fellow peer. Let's hope Massey's lawsuit will make bigheads like Gardner think again before flexing their ignorant, uneducated muscles. And, quite frankly, that's what Gardener is - an ignorant, uneducated bighead. Listen to his snide comments to the arriving officer e.g 'the scumbag', 'he took a taser-ride'. Disgusting, arrogant attitude.
Did Massey have a right to refuse to sign?
24 Jan 08
Originally posted by znshoHe Does have the right to refuse to sign, BUT,in That case, he will immediately be taken to the local magistrate and be judged at that time. This is what a police officer told me when i got a ticket in PA. Other states may be different.
You miss the point. In a true democracy, Massey SHOULD HAVE the right to refuse to sign and the police SHOULD NOT have the right to arrest / use a taser or any other dangerous weapons in such a way or situation. It appears that Utah law allows a 28-year old, bigheaded thug called Gardner to inflict serious physical and verbal assault upon a fellow peer. Let's ...[text shortened]... rriving officer e.g 'the scumbag', 'he took a taser-ride'. Disgusting, arrogant attitude.
Also, the Supreme court has said that a police officer does not HAVE to tell a person what he's being arrested for.It
Has something to do with police getting sued for false arrest. Can't remember where i read it. Obviously they must tell him at some point.
F. Granny.