Debates
16 Nov 23
16 Nov 23
@AverageJoe1
I truly believe that you fellers prefer weak people, like Biden. How can that be? Jimmy Carter, or Ronald Reagan? There is a war on, a lot of them. Astounding that you think that way. Brrrrrrr
16 Nov 23
@vivify saidI believe what I said: people do have a right to block of roads for political reasons.
https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/caravans-of-trump-supporters-block-traffic-on-nj-parkway-ny-bridge/2699128/
Caravans of Trump Supporters Block Traffic on NJ Parkway, NY Bridge
What if it's for a cause you support like this one? When Canadian truckers blocked traffic to protest Covid mandates, were you against that as well?
Thus, I do not support Canadian truckers have the right to blocking roads for their political purpose. Personally I have no problem with Covid mandates -- I mean the government does have a right to try to stop pandemics. But the underlying issue is irrelevant, you do not believe they have a right to block traffic even if you want to promote an issue I support.
16 Nov 23
@vivify saidBut is not an option. If it is not legal, ...you know, no pedestrians in the roadways, then it is not an option. Shallow minds prevail here. It is not an option Vivify, unless you are a law breaking liberal. Did I see you grabbing your share of the goods at Target on the news yesterday?
I shouldn't have said "wrong way" to protect since any action is indeed better than none.
I should've said there are more effective ways to protest, like near congressional buildings or outside the homes of politicians. But not everyone can travel to such locations, so local protests like those that block traffic may be their only option.
16 Nov 23
@shavixmir saidIn Guatemala City, if you hit a pedestrian within 100M of a pedestrian overpass, it's never your fault.
Yeah. That's truly proportional.
How many got killed while I was there? 0
How many pedestrians blocked the road near the crowed areas that had the overpasses? 0
Would I have personally run someone over in that situation had I been driving? No.
@vivify saidI'm pretty sure the Boston Tea Party WAS illegal.
A protest that you can ignore is not an effective one. The whole point is to make people uncomfortable to provoke action, or at the very least make others feel what you're feeling. Politely walking on the side of the road is a great way to get ignored.
Regulating (non-violent) protests is also tricky. Where do you draw the line? Should the Boston Tea Party have been ill ...[text shortened]... ldings or outside the homes of politicians, Regular shmucks driving to work probably can't do much,
16 Nov 23
Don’t get me wrong. I’m not upset. I’m just surprised and I wonder how I could exploit this precedent if I ever want to engage in direct action. Normally direct action comes with the understanding that you will be arrested e.g. all the people arrested during sit ins in the Civil Rights era.
16 Nov 23
@quackquack saidPeople have a right to do anything they want to, if it is legal, which in this case is to have a permit. So why state the obvious? You must have a reason....maybe you are saying it is legal to block roads if you are mad about something? Regardless permitted or not? Please clarify.
I believe what I said: people do have a right to block of roads for political reasons.
Thus, I do not support Canadian truckers have the right to blocking roads for their political purpose. Personally I have no problem with Covid mandates -- I mean the government does have a right to try to stop pandemics. But the underlying issue is irrelevant, you do not believe they have a right to block traffic even if you want to promote an issue I support.
17 Nov 23
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@techsouth saidTory.
I'm pretty sure the Boston Tea Party WAS illegal.
England's taxes against the Colonies were punitive and targeted.
Have you read the Declaration of Independence lately?
17 Nov 23
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@suzianne saidYou didn’t complain about taxes when we were emptying our treasury to clear out the French for you guys
Tory.
England's taxes against the Colonies were punitive and targeted.
Have you read the Declaration of Independence lately?
Freeloaders and backstabbers the only good thing you did was tell a king to go hump himself and set up a republic
One mercantile class taking over from another mercantile class, slavery still in place for a century followed by Aparhied. All men being born equal was smoke and mirrors then and it still is today. The US constipation needs to be flushed like centuries old turd
17 Nov 23
@averagejoe1 saidSaid the man who supports the GOP who are busy trying to impose themselves on other peoples wombs and their religious BS on everyone
I am sure you consider Jeffrey Dahmer vermin. From there, one draws the line somewhere. For instance, my line is at a general level of the people who impose themselves on other people. Yours has to be a bit lower than that, as liberals do impose themselves on other people. A guy blocking the road, causing me to miss my 8-yr old's ball game,,,,,,ooooooo, man, that is an ...[text shortened]... ning of the “threat from within.” He used the same language in a post on Truth Social last Saturday.
Was your post a poor stab at self effacing sarcasm Joe
17 Nov 23
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@kevcvs57 said"Clear out the French"?
You didn’t complain about taxes when we were emptying our treasury to clear out the French for you guys
Freeloaders and backstabbers the only good thing you did was tell a king to go hump himself and set up a republic
One mercantile class taking over from another mercantile class, slavery still in place for a century followed by Aparhied. All men being born equal was sm ...[text shortened]... mirrors then and it still is today. The US constipation needs to be flushed like centuries old turd
We were allies with the French. Lafeyette was a bonafide American hero, he fought in the Continental Army and rose to major-general before the Siege of Yorktown.
I agree with the slavery and apartheid thing, though. Jefferson got it right by invoking natural law, but quite a few after him missed that bus.
17 Nov 23
@suzianne saidI never. hear about natural law in daily life, or court cases. Seems you and Marauder are the only ones up on, and aware of how it is applied in every facet of life.
"Clear out the French"?
We were allies with the French. Lafeyette was a bonafide American hero, he fought in the Continental Army and rose to major-general before the Siege of Yorktown.
I agree with the slavery and apartheid thing, though. Jefferson got it right by invoking natural law, but quite a few after him missed that bus.