Letter to the President

Originally posted by AThousandYoung


2. Because the child, at least at some stages, is unable to suffer. Anyway people have the right to their own bodies.

3. Most of them had some tie to Christianity, but they weren't necessarily Christian. Many were Deists. In any case the Treaty of Tripoli made it quite clear that we are NOT a Christian nation.

Another example - we swear to God in court, despite the fact that Jesus specifically tells us not to do that in the Bible.[/b]

2. However, that is still a human child. If she raped then you kill the rapist not the baby.

3. Forgive my ignorance but what was said in the treaty of Tripoli?

4. Reference?

Originally posted by wittywonka
There really isn't anything new in these threads...

I guess I'll still take a stab at those that really stuck out...



5. Now that's rich. It's not just you, but I have heard numerous conservatives mock democratic candidates simply because of how they looked (including John Kerry). The president of the United isn't supposed to be a fashio ...[text shortened]... isions that are beneficial to its wellbeing. Hillary definitely falls into that category.

I know, I was only joking about Clinton having a "screwed up face" 🙂
I would never vote for a candidate just based on their looks.

Originally posted by Judah1

kill the rapist not the baby

Reductio ad bumperstickerum?

Originally posted by ChronicLeaky
Reductio ad bumperstickerum?

????what?????

Originally posted by Judah1
????what?????

Jesus, kid...you need a lot of stuff explained to you. At least you admit when you don't understand something...better than nothing i guess.

It is a play on words from a type of logical argument called Reductio ad absurdum (Latin: "reduction to the absurd"😉. He replaced absurdum with "bumperstickerum" to highlight how your argument sounded like a bumper sticker.

It is actually funnier than it sounds, but jokes are never funny once explained.

For more go to:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reductio_ad_absurdum

Oh, and the Treaty of Tripoli...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Tripoli

Originally posted by Judah1
I know, I was only joking about Clinton having a "screwed up face" 🙂

I figured you were, I just thought it was interesting. I've heard many conservatives take cracks at democratic candidates' looks. Except for George W., I haven't heard many democrats take (looks) cracks at conservatives.

But, then again, unfortunately, I do not live near very many democrats.

Originally posted by TheSkipper
Jesus, kid...you need a lot of stuff explained to you. At least you admit when you don't understand something...better than nothing i guess.

It is a play on words from a type of logical argument called Reductio ad absurdum (Latin: "reduction to the absurd"😉. He replaced absurdum with "bumperstickerum" to highlight how your argument sounded like a bum ...[text shortened]... urdum

Oh, and the Treaty of Tripoli...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Tripoli

ok thanks

Originally posted by lepomis
She can answer them all the same way...

'Let me do a public opinion poll and THEN I will let you know my position on the subject'

🙂

Originally posted by lepomis
Well... yes, but most (if not all) polls are biased. A good reason not to use them to make decisions... or run a country.

Do you know a better, less biased way to figure out what the people want or are you more in favor of just ignoring popular opinion?

Originally posted by zeeblebot
do you think any politician would waste good money on a poll that wasn't biased?

Your argument seems to be that politicians are simply inherently corrupt. Are politicians that work with polls more corrupt than others, or do you simply like corruption that doesn't involve polls for some reason?

Originally posted by Judah1
2. However, that is still a human child. If she raped then you kill the rapist not the baby.

3. Forgive my ignorance but what was said in the treaty of Tripoli?

4. Reference?

2. Depends on which definition you use.

3.As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion...

From Article 11 of the Treaty of Tripoli, 1796. Unanimously ratified by the U.S. Senate and signed by President John Adams.

4. Matthew 5:34, James 5:12

http://dwindlinginunbelief.blogspot.com/2006/12/swearing-on-quran.html

Originally posted by AThousandYoung
Do you know a better, less biased way to figure out what the people want or are you more in favor of just ignoring popular opinion?

No, but that doesn't mean you should use them just because there is nothing better. They give unreliable results, so the numbers gained from them can not be considered useful... unless your are more in favor of spreading propaganda.

Originally posted by lepomis
No, but that doesn't mean you should use them just because there is nothing better. They give unreliable results, so the numbers gained from them can not be considered useful... unless your are more in favor of spreading propaganda.

Then you feel the President should ignore public opinion based on the idea that there's no way he can hope to have any idea what the people want? That's what it seems like you're saying.

You know politicians are supposed to be representing the people right? At least in the US.

Originally posted by AThousandYoung
Then you feel the President should ignore public opinion based on the idea that there's no way he can hope to have any idea what the people want? That's what it seems like you're saying.

You know politicians are supposed to be representing the people right? At least in the US.

We vote in people who feel as we do. They govern as best they can. If we do not like it we vote them out.

Polls are not reliable and you seem to be saying that the pres. should run country using these.

Originally posted by lepomis
We vote in people who feel as we do. They govern as best they can. If we do not like it we vote them out.

Polls are not reliable and you seem to be saying that the pres. should run country using these.

I don't know why you're so insistent that polls are unreliable. In any case the President should listen to the people. How exactly this is done best, whether by youtube interviews with random Americans or polls is not certain, but any effort at all is a good sign.

Please, elaborate what you mean by "vote them out". Don't you mean "endure them until their term is up and hope the next one is better"? On occasion we may not re-elect Presidents, but even if we don't they have four years to do what they want as long as they don't get impeached - and that's not easy to do.