@wildgrass saidhere is the paradox, plastic is important to a healthy environment, it is the disposal of said plastic that is the problem. The "green " supermarkets that Ban single use bags would be far better of charging, and giving to a charity, for single use bags. I reuse them more than most reuse the 15 cent bags. They, like many corporations are hypocritically green. I have pondered this problem a few times and have no idea how to fix it.
Right, the markets should be driving this. Let's dig into that a bit. Where does plastic come from?
From governments around the world, the fossil fuel industry receives more than $5 trillion in subsidies. This is mostly to keep prices of oil gas down, artificially deflating the cost of plastic manufacturing. It's good for the economy, but its a "market" in the same way a ...[text shortened]... y should answer the question: Why are your products ending up in my blood stream without my consent?
Far to easy to play the blame game. If ya don't know, ( how to fix the problem ) don't go.
Many solutions that seem great end up making things worse. Like bricks made up of high levels of recyclable plastic, and plastic mixed with tar for the roads. both of these, so I have read, end up with more micro plastics as they wear, esp on the roads. Problem is, how does one really know.
As I have said before, I believe this to be one of the few real problems to the environment but, what to do??
And the blame someone else game is pointless.
And I can tell you why they are ending up in our bloodstream without your consent, because to few people give a stuff and the greenies cannot figure how to make money of it nor do they know how to fix this, the singularly most important environment issue, in my considered opinion, we have.
@jimmac saidYou're pointing to the idea that "greenies" have not figure out how to make money off it, but missing the idea that plastics companies are currently making money off it.
And I can tell you why they are ending up in our bloodstream without your consent, because to few people give a stuff and the greenies cannot figure how to make money of it nor do they know how to fix this, the singularly most important environment issue, in my considered opinion, we have.
@wildgrass saidMaking money is the main point of investing, I am not missing that point at all, that is the point. Why would anyone have a problem with that.
You're pointing to the idea that "greenies" have not figure out how to make money off it, but missing the idea that plastics companies are currently making money off it.
They make money, everyone benefits. That does not negate the problematic side of the equation where everyone also loses. I Do not know how to fix it and neither do the "greenies". Any money has it, if someone could fix it, or even pretend to fix it, like most green solutions, they pretend, they would invest. It is all about " investment " nought else.
BTW an investment is not "always" about money.
@jimmac saidThat's not the point I was suggesting you were missing. The investments here are heavily subsidized with tax dollars. That's fine. Free enterprise right? Whoever secures the biggest subsidies for their business/enterprise gets to buy the lake house. We're all cool with this fun system we built. Call it "capitalism" in air quotes.
Making money is the main point of investing, I am not missing that point at all, that is the point. Why would anyone have a problem with that.
They make money, everyone benefits. That does not negate the problematic side of the equation where everyone also loses. I Do not know how to fix it and neither do the "greenies". Any money has it, if someone could fix it, or even pr ...[text shortened]... nvest. It is all about " investment " nought else.
BTW an investment is not "always" about money.
Their industry would not be profitable at current prices of plastic if government were not involved. It's not driven by the markets at all. The profits are driven by where the subsidies are. Currently, those subsidies lie with the oil/gas/plastics industry to pump your blood stream full of plastic. So, it appears, the fix is not the greenies at all. The fix is a smaller government that allows free enterprise to fail when the cost of manufacturing is too high. The reason we're littered with cheap plastic is the dollars flow from my property taxes to the oil subsidy to the down payment on the plastic company CEO's lake house.