30 Sep 14
Originally posted by AThousandYoungI know that. Nevertheless, one of the largest current sources of CO2 in the atmosphere is soil carbon released due to farming. When land is changed from swamp or other carbon rich soils to farm land, a very large amount of carbon is released into the atmosphere.
The carbon in plants comes from the air, not the soil.
Farming is a very significant part of the cause of global warming.
Originally posted by twhiteheadI dared to intimate as much twhitehead and wolfgangs reply was a very condescending "Go look on the internet".
I know that. Nevertheless, one of the largest current sources of CO2 in the atmosphere is soil carbon released due to farming. When land is changed from swamp or other carbon rich soils to farm land, a very large amount of carbon is released into the atmosphere.
Farming is a very significant part of the cause of global warming.
Originally posted by normbenignSince the world population is already stabilizing, this is an irrelevant factor in terms of CO2 emissions.
Populations will not remain totally static. The problem is that third world countries contribute the most to population growth, and are unmanageable in terms of the global warming agenda.
Interestingly, China has recently overtaken the EU in terms of CO2 emissions per capita, which shows that it is possible to have strong growth and reduced CO2 emissions at the same time.
Originally posted by twhiteheadPerhaps, but how can anyone be certain? After all much warmer global conditions existed (according to warming experts) long before man was even in the picture.
I know that. Nevertheless, one of the largest current sources of CO2 in the atmosphere is soil carbon released due to farming. When land is changed from swamp or other carbon rich soils to farm land, a very large amount of carbon is released into the atmosphere.
Farming is a very significant part of the cause of global warming.
There are so many factors to include in planetary temperature, most of them beyond any measure of human control.
Originally posted by KazetNagorraStill, global problems would require global cooperation, and that is pretty unlikely. Populations will stabilize, particularly if people are left to their own free decision making. Many countries are already at negative population growth, and that trend probably will continue.
Since the world population is already stabilizing, this is an irrelevant factor in terms of CO2 emissions.
Interestingly, China has recently overtaken the EU in terms of CO2 emissions per capita, which shows that it is possible to have strong growth and reduced CO2 emissions at the same time.
CO2 is a distraction, by those in politics and industry trying to make a killing of irrational fears.
30 Sep 14
Originally posted by normbenignScience is not about being "certain." Only the trivial is certain. What we attempt to do is find the most plausible explanation for what we can see, and use this information to construct models that hopefully can predict future events with some accuracy.
Perhaps, but how can anyone be certain? After all much warmer global conditions existed (according to warming experts) long before man was even in the picture.
There are so many factors to include in planetary temperature, most of them beyond any measure of human control.
Originally posted by normbenignEarth's wobbling orbit, rapid climate change due to sudden increased levels of greenhouse gases in the athmosphere, mass extinctions. I'll leave you to read up on the subject, and connect the dots.
Perhaps, but how can anyone be certain? After all much warmer global conditions existed (according to warming experts) long before man was even in the picture.
Originally posted by Wajoma"I dared to intimate as much twitehead..."
"I dared to intimate as much twhitehead, and wolfgangs' reply was a very condescending "Go look on the internet"."
A comma after twhitehead makes the difference?
Are you saying you dared to be intimate with twitehead, or that you intimidated twitehead as much as something else (what?), or that you intimidated someone (who?) as much as twitehead, or (please no) you were as intimate with someone (who?) as twitehead?
Okay, I'm kidding a little, but I honestly don't get that sentence. 😳
Originally posted by C HessTo 'intimate' can mean to 'suggest'.
"I dared to intimate as much twitehead..."
Are you saying you dared to be intimate with twitehead, or that you intimidated twitehead as much as something else (what?), or that you intimidated someone (who?) as much as twitehead, or (please no) you were as intimate with someone (who?) as twitehead?
Okay, I'm kidding a little, but I honestly don't get that sentence. 😳
In this thread both Deepthought and wolfgang have been a little too quick with their derision and sarcasm, both got their fingers singed.
Originally posted by C Hess99.9% of all living species are extinct, most of which happened well before mankind ever set foot on the earth.
Earth's wobbling orbit, rapid climate change due to sudden increased levels of greenhouse gases in the athmosphere, mass extinctions. I'll leave you to read up on the subject, and connect the dots.
Extinction is a natural process. We will all become extinct eventually. The arrogance is to think we can stop it or that delaying it is always a good thing.
Also, temperatures seem to be rising on all planets in the solar system.
Coincidence?