Next, those 187 minutes of zero by Trump:

@metal-brain said
If the Capitol police was unprepared and didn't call for reinforcements why is that Trump's fault? Does Trump control the Capitol Police? Did he make them open the barricades to let his supporters through so they could walk right up to the Capitol building?

strange how the colbert crew got off because they were invited in…Trump supporters were invited in also.

This committee is out of the communist playbook

@sleepyguy said
That's not specific.

What specifically did Trump do or say in the 187 minutes that incited a riot etc?

Why limit it to only those 187 minutes? You realize months of planning went into this, right? Your question is disingenuous.

But Trump telling the rioters that he won't be happy with Pence unless he overturns the election, followed by that mob chanting to" hang Mike Pence" for certifying the election, as Trump's lawyer Giuliani screams at the mob to have "trial by combat" is glaring evidence, no?

Furthermore, the Secret Service deleted all their text messages for Jan 5th and 6th *after* the Jan 6th panel requested them for their investigation. James Murray, the director of the Secret Service was appointed by Trump in 2019. So that's possible evidence tampering.

@vivify said
Why limit it to only those 187 minutes? You realize months of planning went into this, right? Your question is disingenuous.

But Trump telling the rioters that he won't be happy with Pence unless he overturns the election, followed by that mob chanting to" hang Mike Pence" for certifying the election, as Trump's lawyer Giuliani screams at the mob to have "trial by comb ...[text shortened]... rector of the Secret Service was appointed by Trump in 2019. So that's possible evidence tampering.

Not disingenuous, just riffing along with the titled OP. So in all those months of dastardly deeds we have Trump saying he won't be happy with Pence and some actions taken by people who are not Donald Trump?

Some "possible evidence." Is that really it?

@mott-the-hoople said
the law requires a hearing where both sides get to speak.

This hearing only one side gets to speak and you fools play it as legitimate.

Trump will get to speak at his trial this is a hearing, it was trump who ordered his co conspirators to use executive privilege or simply ignore the subpoenas.
Twist all you like but the truth is being presented to the people and they will do with it as the like. His stupid base will ignore it even if the case against him is water proof because they agree with his attempt to usurp the elected government but most people in the middle will think long and hard before voting for trump regardless of what they think of his policies and personality.

@sleepyguy said
Not disingenuous, just riffing along with the titled OP. So in all those months of dastardly deeds we have Trump saying he won't be happy with Pence and some actions taken by people who are not Donald Trump?

Some "possible evidence." Is that really it?

Like I said, you're disingenuous.

@vivify said
Like I said, you're disingenuous.

Oh come on now. I've not paid attention to the hearings like y'all apparently have. And now you're here laying down the charges of inciting a riot, insurrection, various tamperings and so on. I'm just looking to be enlightened. Surely you can point out something Trump actually did.

@mott-the-hoople said
the law requires a hearing where both sides get to speak.

This hearing only one side gets to speak and you fools play it as legitimate.

the law requires a hearing where both sides get to speak.


Dear Mott - The majority of those testifying in these hearings are from Trump's own staff - lifelong republicans, all. In addition, 2 of those serving on the committee, Adam Kinzinger and Liz Cheney are also Republicans. The only high-ranking republicans not there are Trump and Pence, both of whom refused when asked to appear. Most would say that's a hearing where "both sides get to speak"

My lord, where have you been living - Mars?

@sleepyguy said
Oh come on now. I've not paid attention to the hearings like y'all apparently have. And now you're here laying down the charges of inciting a riot, insurrection, various tamperings and so on. I'm just looking to be enlightened. Surely you can point out something Trump actually did.

Yeah, TRUMP will have his day sooner, I hope, rather,
than later, this will all be hashed out in a courtroom.

@sleepyguy said
Oh come on now. I've not paid attention to the hearings like y'all apparently have. And now you're here laying down the charges of inciting a riot, insurrection, various tamperings and so on. I'm just looking to be enlightened. Surely you can point out something Trump actually did.

I already told you: election tampering when tried to pressure state officials into overturning election results, (like for Wisconsin and Georgia) witness tampering when he tried to call a witness for the investigation to influence her testimony, and insurrection/inciting riot, based on the fact that Trump was the one who planned the march on Capitol Hill that lead to the riot.

@sonhouse said
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/3568083-jan-6-hearing-to-focus-on-trumps-frantic-187-minutes/

But OF COURSE the ultrarightwingnut zombies will have some kind of answer to that bit of corruption by our former corruption in Chief.

It was said that TRUMP had his feet on the coffee table,
and watched the riots on T.V, as they happened, and
giggled gleefully, like a schoolgirl the whole time.
As people fought and died......sad, obscene and tragic.
Who wants to tell me of the greatness of this vile, vulgar human being?
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-gleefully-watched-capitol-attack-on-tv-hitting-rewind-he-enjoyed-it-so-much-former-press-secretary-tells-cnn/ar-AASvAFf

@sleepyguy said
What specifically did Trump do or say that amounts to criminal conduct?

Huh?
Easy to see that you're well informed.
Use Google.
Start with Fulton County, Georgia

@mott-the-hoople said
strange how the colbert crew got off because they were invited in…Trump supporters were invited in also.

This committee is out of the communist playbook

I find it simply shocking that ordinary Americans can debase themselves and their principles by following a con man so shamelessly.

@vivify said
I already told you: election tampering when tried to pressure state officials into overturning election results, (like for Wisconsin and Georgia) witness tampering when he tried to call a witness for the investigation to influence her testimony, and insurrection/inciting riot, based on the fact that Trump was the one who planned the march on Capitol Hill that lead to the riot.

Your "tried to pressure state officials into overturning election results" is more accurately described as "pleaded with state officials to hold off on certifying elections over his sincere belief that counts were fraudulent."

Tried to call a witness? Yeah OK.

He "planned a riot" by asking people to demonstrate peacefully and patriotically to let their voices be heard, and to primary weak republicans?

It's all weak.

@sleepyguy said
Your "tried to pressure state officials into overturning election results" is more accurately described as "pleaded with state officials to hold off on certifying elections over his sincere belief that counts were fraudulent."

Tried to call a witness? Yeah OK.

He "planned a riot" by asking people to demonstrate peacefully and patriotically to let their voices be heard, and to primary weak republicans?

It's all weak.

No, testimony from the officials themselves was that Trump pressured them.

And Trump *did* call the witness; but she rejected his call and turned Trump over to her lawyer. That would be attempted witness tampering, a crime.

"Let's have trial by combat" is not a "peaceful" call to protest.

You admit that you haven't been following the hearing yet feel supremely confident in stating falsehoods.

@sleepyguy said
Your "tried to pressure state officials into overturning election results" is more accurately described as "pleaded with state officials to hold off on certifying elections over his sincere belief that counts were fraudulent."

Tried to call a witness? Yeah OK.

He "planned a riot" by asking people to demonstrate peacefully and patriotically to let their voices be heard, and to primary weak republicans?

It's all weak.

I think the official charge is ''tampering with an election''
Once again, start with GOOGLE and work your way out,
there are plenty of threads, if you are unable to understand,
ask The Librarian for help/....Do they have 'helpful librarians in your country?