@Sleepyguy
Who stood to lose the most if Pence didn't cave to Trump? Let's see. Ivanka? no, Jared? no, Giuliani? no, who do YOU think got that message to the insurrectionists?
And why are you continuing to defend the most sociopathic POTUS in US history?
Do you seriously think Trump has the interest of the nation or its citizens at heart?
Can you be THAT naive?
@sonhouse saidWhat message? That Pence was splitting from Trump? The media perhaps? But that's just worthless speculation, the same as yours.
@Sleepyguy
who do YOU think got that message to the insurrectionists?
@sleepyguy saidWho??
Looks like Jonathan Turley disagrees.
https://jonathanturley.org/2022/07/21/a-bill-comes-due-last-chance-hearing-jan-6-committee-has-yet-to-establish-a-criminal-case-against-trump/
@mott-the-hoople saidDo you somehow need the entire text of the speech at the Ellipse?
tell us exactly what Trump said to incite a riot...
@sonhouse saidYou are a ridiculous person.
@Sleepyguy
So will you continue to worship your lord Trump if and when he is in prison?
@Sleepyguy
Like I said, which you deflected instead of answering, will you keep on supporting Trump if he is in prison?
@sonhouse saidI will support the politician who I think has the best chance of inhibiting the corrupt federal leviathan. I actually don't think that's Trump, who I don't particularly like, and have always considered a deeply strange person, not unlike you, actually.
@Sleepyguy
Like I said, which you deflected instead of answering, will you keep on supporting Trump if he is in prison?
If we put Trump's meanest tweets alongside your retarded rants I don't think you would compare very favorably, and that is saying something.
We'll see what happens. If Garland takes the output from the kangaroo hearings into another DC kangaroo courtroom I would not be surprised to see a conviction.
@kevcvs57 saidFrom the link below:
They smashed the barriers down and then threw them at the police then they smashed their way in to the capitol bldg and “fought like hell” just as trump instructed them to do at the rally.
So if banks cannot stop bank robbers because they have insufficient armed guards in the bank or if a woman gets raped because she couldn’t outrun the rapist then it’s their fault and no r ...[text shortened]... to the insurrection conspiracy headed by trump and most of it done in front of witnesses or on tape.
"Videos from the day of the attack appear to show some officers escorting rioters inside the building. In one video, USCP officers can be seen opening barricades allowing the mob to enter the Capitol complex without resistance."
https://www.npr.org/sections/insurrection-at-the-capitol/2021/02/19/969441904/capitol-police-suspends-6-officers-investigates-dozens-more-after-capitol-riots
@Sleepyguy
RIght. Kangaroo hearings. Funny how those witnesses were hard core republicans and Trumpites. I guess they got some kind of truth serum shot in secret so they would lie to the world under oath.
Like Trump smashing plates against the wall, just the kind of thing a 15 year old spoiled brat would do when he didn't get his way.
Like asking the head of the FBI, I want loyalty from you, kiss my ring and you will keep your job, and that weird dude says his oath is to the constitution so Trump fired him. Can't have people who swear allegiance to the constitution now can we?
I had to swear such an oath when I entered the military and got my top secret clearance because I would defend the US to the death but that just makes me weird I guess.
Trump was the head snake fomenting the attempted coup and it wasn't just riling up folks on Jan 6, it had deep roots like Trump personally calling up the Georgia Sec. of State asking for those 12,000 odd votes, find them we will do the rest.
What I don't understand is how people ignore that kind of behavior like that should be the new normal.
Like making up fake electors who are now under the gun in Georgia, real presidential behavior.
Like when he screws his perceived enemies like Lt.Col. Vindman who intercepted that call to Zelinski, WE NEED A FAVOR THOUGH, so Vindman had to go AND his brother who had nothing to do with that bit of corruption.
But Bannon, Roger stone, they drank the Trumpaid and kissed his ring, earned presidential pardons.
If you think that is the way government should be run, god help us all.