NI Police colluded with terrorists

Originally posted by Redmike
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/6286695.stm

It seems there's to be no prosecutions though.😞

O.K. Mike, tell me what the deal is with Northern Ireland. I know they tried turning it over and it didn't work and I thought I heard something, not very recently, about them trying to get together to work something out again.

Whats' the big deal with No. Ireland? It seem like a relic of the old Protestant/Catholic fight that they just can't let go of.

What's the problem with the U.K. giving it back to the Irish and letting them deal with it?

Originally posted by Merk
O.K. Mike, tell me what the deal is with Northern Ireland. I know they tried turning it over and it didn't work and I thought I heard something, not very recently, about them trying to get together to work something out again.

Whats' the big deal with No. Ireland? It seem like a relic of the old Protestant/Catholic fight that they just can't let go of.

What's the problem with the U.K. giving it back to the Irish and letting them deal with it?

Not sure where to start....

Excuse my skating over details.

All of Ireland was inder English control for many centuries, with periodic uprisings.

Large numbers of Scots were sent to the North East of Ireland as settlers.

While Ireland is predominantly catholic, these Scots were scary Presbyterians.

When a succesful uprising occurred in 1916 in Dublin, London agreed to look at some kind of independence, but those in the North East wanted to stay with Britain. Civil war ensued, and the new Dublin government accepted the partition of Ireland - 26 counties independent of Britain, 6 counties remaining attached to Britain (known as Northern Ireland).

This Northern Ireland, obviously had an inbuilt majority wishing to remain with Britain (the Unionists) and a minority wishing to join the rest of Ireland (the Nationalists or Republicans).

There was a history of civil rights abuses against the Nationalists - they were under-represented politically, discriminated against for jobs etc etc. Protests led to repression which led to re-emergence of the Irish Republican Army.

The IRA waged an armed struggle/terrorist campaign (depending on your pov). They've recently, along with the Loyalist paramilitaries, adopted a non-military approach, though this is proceeding slowly.

Hopefully that's a reasonable potted history.

But, IMO, they shoud just re-unite Ireland.

Originally posted by Redmike
Yeah - where's Prince of Orange when we need him.

The Prince of Orange grew over it. He married a catholic woman.

Originally posted by ivanhoe
The Prince of Orange grew over it. He married a catholic woman.

I think he's referring to a different prince of Orange here dude.

But, thinking about that lovely royal wedding. There were a lot of protestant people protesting, weren't there?
Oh yes. One of the Christian political parties even tried to get it banned, didn't it?

And how did they do that? Trying to get an ancient Dutch law put back into practice...that royalty can't marry a catholic...

Mhmmm... The OH SO BLOODY LIBERAL DUTCH!

Originally posted by ivanhoe
The Prince of Orange grew over it. He married a catholic woman.

Our PrinceofOrange would never do that, I'm sure.

He wouldn't go to Glasgow University because it was formed by papal decree in 1451 (as most were at that time).

Originally posted by Redmike
Not sure where to start....

Excuse my skating over details.

All of Ireland was inder English control for many centuries, with periodic uprisings.

Large numbers of Scots were sent to the North East of Ireland as settlers.

While Ireland is predominantly catholic, these Scots were scary Presbyterians.

When a succesful uprising occurred in 1916 i ...[text shortened]...
Hopefully that's a reasonable potted history.

But, IMO, they shoud just re-unite Ireland.

Nice post