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@suzianne saidBiden said that he cannot wait to debate Trump. Was that a lie of Biden, or was he just saying that he cannot wait,,,That, since he cannot wait, then it would follow that he Won't wait, which means that he will not be available to debate Trump?
You guys have all the lies. It's what you do.
Was it a lie, or not? A real brain teaser, from the less-than pliable lips of Biden.
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@vivify saidAmen.
I've reached my limit with explaining the same thing to you repeatedly.
I'm tired of you needing socialism explained to you. I'm tired of you needing the issue around voter ID laws explained.
I'm tired of having to explain how government works to you, like how a president can't unilaterally decide what the U.S. spends money on.
I'm tired of explaining basic definit ...[text shortened]... vapid, uninformed posts. I'm tired of you as person. There is no value in communicating with you.
@vivify saidI'm tired of you being so goddamn stupid. I'm tired of your vapid, uninformed posts. I'm tired of you as person. There is no value in communicating with you.
I've reached my limit with explaining the same thing to you repeatedly.
I'm tired of you needing socialism explained to you. I'm tired of you needing the issue around voter ID laws explained.
I'm tired of having to explain how government works to you, like how a president can't unilaterally decide what the U.S. spends money on.
I'm tired of explaining basic definit ...[text shortened]... vapid, uninformed posts. I'm tired of you as person. There is no value in communicating with you.
He who knows not and knows not he knows not is a fool. Shun him.
- Old Persian Proverb.
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@shavixmir saidEasy Shav....I would not be so smug after what we have discovered about you socialists. A closed society, are you? No liberals among you. Are you a closeted conservative, Shav???
Amen.
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@averagejoe1 saidMy god, you really are fukking stupid, aren’t you?
Easy Shav....I would not be so smug after what we have discovered about you socialists. A closed society, are you? No liberals among you. Are you a closeted conservative, Shav???
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@vivify saidThis also happens when conversing with Filthy Herman's goat.
I've reached my limit with explaining the same thing to you repeatedly.
I'm tired of you needing socialism explained to you. I'm tired of you needing the issue around voter ID laws explained.
I'm tired of having to explain how government works to you, like how a president can't unilaterally decide what the U.S. spends money on.
I'm tired of explaining basic definit ...[text shortened]... vapid, uninformed posts. I'm tired of you as person. There is no value in communicating with you.
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@shavixmir saidAll I did was report the evidence of Geert et al
My god, you really are fukking stupid, aren’t you?
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@moonbus saidThey theselves cannot explain sociialism. Check out these two takes on it.
This also happens when conversing with Filthy Herman's goat.
A: I support socialism because Sweden has become a wonderful country thanks to socialism.
B: Sweden is a country where the free market policies are adopted along with a social welfare state and it has nothing to do with socialism.
Really confusing. Maybe these fellers will take another stab at explaining. Here is one of my favorite of the many, many definitions:
Socialism is when the government does stuff, and the more stuff the government does, the more socialism you got. And if the government does a REAL lotta stuff, it's communism.
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@averagejoe1 saidSocialism is when the electorate decides to manage certain services collectively, instead of every man for himself. Such as children's day care, health care, subsidized public transport, maintenance of public roads and schools, protection of wildlife and wilderness areas, re-integration of unemployed people into the jobs market, and so on. Socialism is when the electorate decides to finance such services by universal taxation, instead of payment at the point of consumption. It's not a binary issue, full-on or full-off--there are degrees, and different countries implement it differently.
They theselves cannot explain sociialism. Check out these two takes on it.
A: I support socialism because Sweden has become a wonderful country thanks to socialism.
B: Sweden is a country where the free market policies are adopted along with a social welfare state and it has nothing to do with socialism.
Really confusing. Maybe these fellers will take another st ...[text shortened]... ent does, the more socialism you got. And if the government does a REAL lotta stuff, it's communism.
The USA has a number of such services, including unemployment benefit (FDR's New Deal), the forestry service (Theodore Roosevelt gave this idea presidential sanction 1905), and so on --you just don't call them 'socialism', that's all. Leaving wilderness areas to be managed privately is a really bad idea; it inevitably leads to private persons being bought out by corporations, which then extract resources out of the land and leave behind an ecological ruin. The same applies to unemployment benefit: leaving people who lose their jobs to fend for themselves inevitably leads to massive social discontent and disorder; it is far better, and ultimately also cheaper, for universal taxation to fund retraining programs and get unemployed people back into the jobs market.
@moonbus saidI agree with everything that you post here. Everything. So, we can parse the def of socialism, and have it implemented as you have stated. A great economic program. No parasites and losers need apply.
Socialism is when the electorate decides to manage certain services collectively, instead of every man for himself. Such as children's day care, health care, subsidized public transport, maintenance of public roads and schools, protection of wildlife and wilderness areas, re-integration of unemployed people into the jobs market, and so on. Socialism is when the electorate dec ...[text shortened]... universal taxation to fund retraining programs and get unemployed people back into the jobs market.
I will not elongate this response, except to say there is a creeping of socialism , the one which leads to communism. Why did you not write above that said monies will be used to pay off college loans? What in the. hell? Why, you casually leave that out, Moonbus..........................and 1000 other ill-conceived ideas of punishing the successful , making them pay for people who do not pull their weight. On another thread, Marauder wants MORE money from them when they already pay 50% of the taxes. People who make $500k or more pay 42.5% of our revenues in taxes, something like that.
Do you want to finish your post above? Jesus.
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@AverageJoe1
Yeah, some debate, Biden bringing up actual issues, your god king bringing up how he is an innocent victim, dodging any direct reference to ANYTHING important, just shifting into full circus mode, GREAT debating skills indeed.
@sonhouse saidWell, by golly, we can settle your 'some debate' comment.
@AverageJoe1
Yeah, some debate, Biden bringing up actual issues, your god king bringing up how he is an innocent victim, dodging any direct reference to ANYTHING important, just shifting into full circus mode, GREAT debating skills indeed.
Run over to the "I'd Love To Debate Trump' thread and see where I showed your Jester King to be totally without a shred of democracy in his veins, and a thirst for power. It is all there, not a very long read.
Please respond in kind, and you can take a break from writing about Trump. Bit I would still love to hear more about Trump,,,,maybe next Saturday?
@averagejoe1 saidWell, AJoe, 85% of Americans want it because we are at risk where anyone can vote,
Merritt Garland says he will fight 'tooth and nail' to allow people to vote for our leaders and policies, without identifying themselves. This, after Laken Riley's illegal murderer could be voting if he were not in jail.
Can one of you faeries tell us how this is acceptable? I have to show ID to get on a plane, etc. And , it could leave to massive voter fraud, coul ...[text shortened]... cessary-kamala-harris-us-attorney-general-vice-president-2024-election-voting-laws-white-house-biden
and of course, the democrats want to have all of their dead friends and other non-citizens vote!
So guess who will win this one?? And the Republicans are doing what about it????
The republicans make me sick on this issue.
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@earl-of-trumps saidI would like one of the grwonups on the thread to tell us why a person should not have to identify themselves to vote. Yes, we all know this is an issue 'that we have been over a thousand times.." but jesus, the question has never been answered..It is like Groundhog Say and Sonhouse all rolled into one.
Well, AJoe, 85% of Americans want it because we are at risk where anyone can vote,
and of course, the democrats want to have all of their dead friends and other non-citizens vote!
So guess who will win this one?? And the Republicans are doing what about it????
The republicans make me sick on this issue.
Libs are unbrave to comment. (is that. word?)