25 Jun 09
Originally posted by menace71Have there been any U.S. presidents since, say, 1947, who have been anything other than old school CIA, for all intents and purposes, to varying degrees, and I mean in terms of foreign policy and other deeds within U.S. spheres of influence? Will the U.S. ever change?
Putin is old school KGB and that he will never change.
25 Jun 09
I'm just taking it from their perspective is all. They are a proud people some came here to escape persecution and to have political or religious freedom which they did not get in Russia or the former Soviet republics. You have see which is the lesser of two evils is all I think. I'm not saying the U.S. has not made mistakes but the lesser of two evils is all I'm saying.
25 Jun 09
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Originally posted by menace71And I have been encouraging you, obliquely, to consider things from Russians' perspectives. I would be interested to hear what your empathetic skills conjure up. Go on. For the debatular fun of it.
I'm just taking it from their perspective is all. They are a proud people some came here to escape persecution and to have political or religious freedom which they did not get in Russia or the former Soviet republics. You have see which is the lesser of two evils is all I think. I'm not saying the U.S. has not made mistakes but the lesser of two evils is all I'm saying.
25 Jun 09
Originally posted by FMFis there something wrong with worrying about about your country's safety?
And we'll hear it again when we see Patriot Act III working its way through congress.
what would you do if someone was threatning Indonesia? tell them you just want to be friends? you know, that doesn't work in real life.
25 Jun 09
Originally posted by FMFyou think Kennedy was old school CIA? Clinton? Carter?...Obama?
Have there been any U.S. presidents since, say, 1947, who have been anything other than old school CIA, for all intents and purposes, to varying degrees, and I mean in terms of foreign policy and other deeds within U.S. spheres of influence? Will the U.S. ever change?
this is just more of the same old meaningless gibberish.
25 Jun 09
Originally posted by FMFThat doesn't mean all presidents were "CIA old school" like you claimed.
Every U.S. president since 1947, without exception. In what way do you disagree. The CIA has been a vital tool to every single administration since it was set up. Which part of that do you disagree with?
Don't change your words, the CIA is indeed an important agency for the government, just like any other, but implying that presidents are somehow using it as an aquivalent to a secret police is ridiculous.
25 Jun 09
Originally posted by generalissimoThat's what I claimed is it? What about all the words I used to qualify that claim? Read my posts. Respond to the words I use otherwise your constant stalking this evening (my time) amounts to little more than petty gainsaying.
That doesn't mean all presidents were "CIA old school" like you claimed.
25 Jun 09
Originally posted by FMFyes, thats what you claimed.
That's what I claimed is it? What about all the words I used to qualify that claim? Read my posts. Respond to the words I use otherwise your constant stalking this evening (my time) amounts to little more than petty gainsaying.
stalking? give me a break fMF, if only I knew you'd get so intimidated, I'd stop disagreeing with your stupid statements.
25 Jun 09
Originally posted by generalissimoWhatever you say my little "active debater" sausage.
stalking? give me a break fMF, if only I knew you'd get so intimidated, I'd stop disagreeing with your stupid statements.
"Varying degrees", "for all intents and purposes". Whatever. You need to contradict me. Fine.
25 Jun 09
Originally posted by FMFWhatever you say my little "active debater" sausage.
Whatever you say my little "active debater" sausage.
"Varying degrees", "for all intents and purposes". Whatever. You need to contradict me. Fine.
(BLEEP) you.
"Varying degrees", "for all intents and purposes". Whatever. You need to contradict me. Fine.
just another gross generalisation.
25 Jun 09
Originally posted by generalissimoHave there been any U.S. presidents since, say, 1947, who have been anything other than old school CIA, for all intents and purposes, to varying degrees, and I mean in terms of foreign policy and other deeds within U.S. spheres of influence? Will the U.S. ever change?
(BLEEP) you.