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Originally posted by FMF
Obviously. I said as much on the previous page.
So then you would not advocate the executive branch of a government ignoring laws passed via the democratic process?

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Originally posted by sasquatch672
So then you would not advocate the executive branch of a government ignoring laws passed via the democratic process?
As far as I am aware provision was made in the relevant laws for the executive to oversee the implementation, including using E.O.s. This has been discussed on this forum in great detail on several occasions. As far as I understand it, the executive branch of your government has acted in accordance with the law and with the powers that the law has given it in the implementation of immigration policy. I now support the current efforts to establish an amnesty just as also I support efforts to police your borders as strictly as possible.

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Originally posted by FMF
As far as I am aware provision was made in the relevant laws for the executive to oversee the implementation, including using E.O.s. This has been discussed on this forum in great detail on several occasions. As far as I understand it, the executive branch of your government has acted in accordance with the law and with the powers that the law has given it in th ...[text shortened]... ablish an amnesty just as also I support efforts to police your borders as strictly as possible.
In what tangible ways do you support these efforts?

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Originally posted by sasquatch672
In what tangible ways do you support these efforts?
I don't. This is a discussion forum. If you consider contributing to a discussion as "tangible", then I change my answer to: 'I do. This is it.'

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Originally posted by FMF
I don't. This is a discussion forum. If you consider contributing to a discussion as "tangible", then I change my answer to: 'I do. This is it.'
I don't consider participating in a discussion forum 'support', any more than I consider a "These Colors Don't Run" bumper sticker supporting American troops.

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Originally posted by sasquatch672
I don't consider participating in a discussion forum 'support', any more than I consider a "These Colors Don't Run" bumper sticker supporting American troops.
That's fine. I support the idea of an amnesty and I have expressed it on this forum several times in the last year or so. If my ideas spread from American to American and change the nature of the debate in the public domain in your country on this issue, tipping it in favour of implementing the amnesty, and if it can be shown that I had a hand in swinging public opinion around, then I hope you will come back here and admit that my support for reform had a real impact on the way the issue panned out.

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Originally posted by FMF
That's fine. I support the idea of an amnesty and I have expressed it on this forum several times in the last year or so. If my ideas spread from American to American and change the nature of the debate in the public domain in your country on this issue, tipping it in favour of implementing the amnesty, and if it can be shown that I had a hand in swinging public ...[text shortened]... ck here and admit that my support for reform had a real impact on the way the issue panned out.
You know...one thing you learn from military service is that you're a piece of gear. You're part of a system that includes a weapon, some very basic protective equipment, some communications gear, and fuel to make the system go. But you yourself - there is no Sasquatch, Sasquatch is not important except to play a small part to accomplish the goals of the organization.

You, my friend, have some very grandiose ideas about yourself. You want to matter? Go feed the hungry. Clothe the homeless.

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Originally posted by sasquatch672
You, my friend, have some very grandiose ideas about yourself. You want to matter? Go feed the hungry. Clothe the homeless.
If it can be shown [TV clips, news articles] that it was me who tipped the scale in the U.S.'s immigration debate, and it was me who paved the way for popular acceptance of immigration reform, I want you back here admitting that my support was "tangible", despite my nationality or location. That's all I ask.

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Originally posted by FMF
If it can be shown [TV clips, news articles] that it was me who tipped the scale in the U.S.'s immigration debate, and it was me who paved the way for popular acceptance of immigration reform, I want you back here admitting that my support was "tangible", despite my nationality or location. That's all I ask.
You got it.

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Originally posted by sasquatch672
You know...one thing you learn from military service is that you're a piece of gear. You're part of a system that includes a weapon, some very basic protective equipment, some communications gear, and fuel to make the system go. But you yourself - there is no Sasquatch, Sasquatch is not important except to play a small part to accomplish the goals of ...[text shortened]... randiose ideas about yourself. You want to matter? Go feed the hungry. Clothe the homeless.
I think you need some grandiose improvements in your understanding of sarcasm.

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Originally posted by KazetNagorra
I think you need some grandiose improvements in your understanding of sarcasm.
If he was giving me sarcasm, I can't find it.

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Originally posted by sasquatch672
With this administration? You're freaking dreaming bro. Federal agents have been instructed not to enforce the law. Obama is a gangster. He's a pansy, but he's a gangster.

EDIT: But we have this. The leading advocate of ignoring the laws related to illegal immigration is looking at thirty years of hard time.
With this administration? No Republican has dealt with the issue either. You mean with this government. Neither Republican nor Democrat is going to do anything about illegal immigration, other than making illegals legal.

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Originally posted by Eladar
With this administration? No Republican has dealt with the issue either. You mean with this government. Neither Republican nor Democrat is going to do anything about illegal immigration, other than making illegals legal.
But don't you think this current compromise, the amnesty, is a good one? What is your counterproposal?

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