Pensions

Originally posted by der schwarze Ritter
or force non-members to pay union dues?

Once a union is formed ALL members are required to pay union dues BY LAW.

The LAW requires you to pay your dues. Come on dsr. Straighten up.

Originally posted by der schwarze Ritter
As governments cave to the high demands of big labor, there is less money available for states to operate, maintain current projects, and fix or repair failing infrastructure.

It's called Taxes...eww scary word.

Most workers, whether private or non-private get a pay raise between 1-3%.

The reason projects become underfunded is because taxes are not raised to cover the cost of pay increases and general inflation increases for building materials. "NO NEW TAXES" are the mantra of just about every government in order to get re-elected.

But if your costs go up, and your tax levels are the same, you end up with a deficit, or you are forced to lower services.


The general public has this notion that if you get a cost of living increase in your salary (1-3% ) then you should somehow be better off than you were last year. This is such a BS fault in reasoning since we all know, or should know, that a 1-3% raise is designed to KEEP YOU AT THE LEVEL YOU ARE AT...not better off.

You want to maintain your projects? Start raising taxes in line with cost of living wage increases....which by the way is the goal of most cities come budget time.

Originally posted by uzless
Once a union is formed ALL members are required to pay union dues BY LAW.

The LAW requires you to pay your dues. Come on dsr. Straighten up.

Evidently, the law in Maine and Washington state requires non-union members to pay dues:

http://www.ncpa.org/sub/dpd/index.php?Article_ID=8885

Originally posted by uzless
It's called Taxes...eww scary word.

Most workers, whether private or non-private get a pay raise between 1-3%.

The reason projects become underfunded is because taxes are not raised to cover the cost of pay increases and general inflation increases for building materials. "NO NEW TAXES" are the mantra of just about every government in order to get re ...[text shortened]... ost of living wage increases....which by the way is the goal of most cities come budget time.

Why is it that whenever there's a budgeting shortfall, liberals are ready to pick the poor taxpayer's pockets? Can't you come up with anything innovative? Anything other than tired class warfare bromides or raising taxes? The problem has never been one of income. States have a constant stream of income whether they have a state income tax or state sales tax. Rather, it's one of spending and priorities. When states spend too much, then something in the budget gets bumped down the queue. Or if they don't want to take care of infrastructure, like Louisiana did with the levies in New Orleans, then the citizens have to bear the price later. Or do you think that there's an unlimited amount of tax money that can be raised?

Originally posted by der schwarze Ritter
Evidently, the law in Maine and Washington state requires non-union members to pay dues:

http://www.ncpa.org/sub/dpd/index.php?Article_ID=8885

Well, there is an arguement that says that those who benefit from the unions' work should contribute to it, or pay a corresponding amount to a charity.

But the original context of the thread is the UK, and this would be illegal in the UK.

Originally posted by Redmike
Well, there is an arguement that says that those who benefit from the unions' work should contribute to it, or pay a corresponding amount to a charity.

But the original context of the thread is the UK, and this would be illegal in the UK.

By the same rationale, workers that are non-members but receive better than union conditions should receive money from the unions for lifting the conditions of their members.

in other words

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