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Originally posted by VargExactly, they've got their priorities completely wrong.. Oh yes, I've noticed the satellite dishes too and the flashy mobile phones and bikes that a lot of the poor kids have; it's all about status, and come to think of it, the Poor are possibly the most materialistic group. Then when people get ill through smoking, we pick up the bill for all the expensive NHS treatments etc . . . 😞
Well it's usually cheap gold jewellery but yes.
These people might be on a budget, but I would have thought these people would be on a slightly better budget if they saved nearly £2000pa by not smoking.
Similarly, most of the houses on my street (a mix of council housing and ex-council housing) have satellite dishes - SKY costs £400+ per year if you take the sports packages. Something I cannot justify purchasing for myself.
Priorities, people!!
11 Oct 06
Originally posted by FrenchQueenI guess when you are poor you think money will fix everything. As you get wealthier you find out that it doesnt.
....the Poor are possibly the most materialistic group...|
Hoever everybody chooses how to spend thier money and who is to say that the poor are doing it wrong?
I have noticed that most people in Cape Town, South Africa think much longer term than people back home in Livingstone, Zambia (a much poorer society).
For example a typical Zambian parent starts looking for money to buy napies the day after the child is born. The typical upperclass south african has already planned which school thier child will go to before they even get pregnant.
11 Oct 06
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Originally posted by twhiteheadWell, it is our business how money is distributed to people who live on state benefit, as it is tax payers' money after all. How they choose to spend it concerns us too, to a certain extent: if it affects their health, the education of their children etc . . . then we ought to know and do something about it.
I guess when you are poor you think money will fix everything. As you get wealthier you find out that it doesnt.
Hoever everybody chooses how to spend thier money and who is to say that the poor are doing it wrong?
11 Oct 06
Originally posted by twhiteheadIn America, they have these views only because the Democrats and Paul Krugman of the New York Times hammer it into them. What they fail to tell the poor is that if you're poor now, you don't have to be poor in the future. If this view is incorrect, then why do so many immigrants come to the United States to take menial jobs, save their money and start businesses and send their children to college to study for professional careers? Basically, there are three things you must do if you do not want to be poor:
People who are poor, tend to have a negative outlook on thier future. They do not see themselves getting wealthier and do not see a bright future for themselves...
Finish high school.
Do not have children before you are married.
Work full time at a job.
11 Oct 06
Originally posted by FrenchQueenBritish social worker/critic Theodore Dalrymple said that the thing he most noticed about the underclass was that in none of the homes he visited, did anyone cook. They subsisted entirely on a diet of beer, potato chips, cigarettes, fast food and microwavables.
The Poor are overall less health-conscious than those who are well-off. I suppose health is not the main preoccupation of those who live on the bread line. Although you could have a healthy diet on a budget (I was a student, once!), they seem to prefer a diet of fast food and pre-packed and tinned stuff.
I've noticed that the ladies from the lower-clas ...[text shortened]... he odd ciggie, also have a penchant for gold jewellery and tattoos, these are expensive, no? 🙄
11 Oct 06
Originally posted by der schwarze RitterAnd rage.
British social worker/critic Theodore Dalrymple said that the thing he most noticed about the underclass was that in none of the homes he visited, did anyone cook. They subsisted entirely on a diet of beer, potato chips, cigarettes, fast food and microwavables.
11 Oct 06
Originally posted by VargAlthough it is unlikely, it could be that there is no correlation at all between smoking and being poor in Hull. The connection could simply be that a higher percentage of smokers and poor people live in that region of England than elsewhere.
Research has identified the region of England with the highest percentage of smokers - 53% are smokers.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/humber/6039414.stm
Coincidentally (?) it is also one of the poorest and "deprived" areas.
It has been pointed out that a 20- a day habit costs £1,600 to £1,800 a year!!
Now, to me this doesn't sound very smart - this is ...[text shortened]... pid because they are poor, are they poor and stupid because they smoke?
Seems crazy to me.
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11 Oct 06
Originally posted by VargWe learned from the never ending gun control debate on this forum that the English are more concerned with saving lives than us stupid Americans. It says in the article that ""Smoking is the biggest killer in England"
Research has identified the region of England with the highest percentage of smokers - 53% are smokers.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/humber/6039414.stm
Coincidentally (?) it is also one of the poorest and "deprived" areas.
It has been pointed out that a 20- a day habit costs £1,600 to £1,800 a year!!
Now, to me this doesn't sound very smart - this is ...[text shortened]... pid because they are poor, are they poor and stupid because they smoke?
Seems crazy to me.
So that being the case why have the English, with their superior intellect, not banned smoking?