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Raymond Davis & diplomatic immunity

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Does insisting that Raymond Davis should have diplomatic diplomacy after gunning down two men in Pakistan make a mockery of this important principle and the protection it affords people who are legally going about their nation's legitimate work overseas?

Wall Street Journal: http://tinyurl.com/4ggwf9s

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www.freerepublic.com: http://tinyurl.com/5t2xl56

Daily Telegraph: http://tinyurl.com/46boc87

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Originally posted by FMF
Does insisting that Raymond Davis should have diplomatic diplomacy after gunning down two men in Pakistan make a mockery of this important principle and the protection it affords people who are legally going about their nation's legitimate work overseas?

Wall Street Journal: http://tinyurl.com/4ggwf9s

BBC News: http://tinyurl.com/5rfgp7h

www.freerepublic.com: http://tinyurl.com/5t2xl56

Daily Telegraph: http://tinyurl.com/46boc87
I see no reaosn why anyone should be afforded diplomatic immunity.

People should abide by the laws of the country they are in, and accept the consequesnces of any wrongdoing. If they are not willing to do so, then they should not be in that country.

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Diplomatic immunity seems more of an artifact of an ancient society based on a dominant aristocracy.

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Interesting article with additional facts here: http://www.counterpunch.org/lindorff02082011.html

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Originally posted by KazetNagorra
Diplomatic immunity seems more of an artifact of an ancient society based on a dominant aristocracy.
Should we really perfunctorily repudiate such a long-standing legal principle simply on the grounds that abuses occur every now and then?

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Originally posted by KazetNagorra
Diplomatic immunity seems more of an artifact of an ancient society based on a dominant aristocracy.
... and the fact the countries don't want their diplomats in enemy countries arrested on trumped up charges every time the other country wants to make a political statement.

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Originally posted by adramforall
I see no reaosn why anyone should be afforded diplomatic immunity.

People should abide by the laws of the country they are in, and accept the consequesnces of any wrongdoing. If they are not willing to do so, then they should not be in that country.
Don't you think that promoting a system whereby countries are willing to send ambassadors to the countries they are enemies of makes sense?

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Originally posted by sh76
... and the fact the countries don't want their diplomats in enemy countries arrested on trumped up charges every time the other country wants to make a political statement.
Surely they could just threaten to tear diplomatic ties, something countries regularly do anyway.

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Originally posted by KazetNagorra
Surely they could just threaten to tear diplomatic ties, something countries regularly do anyway.
and in the meantime, both countries are holding the others' diplomats hostage or, in an extreme cases, maybe they've both been executed.

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Originally posted by sh76
and in the meantime, both countries are holding the others' diplomats hostage or, in an extreme cases, maybe they've both been executed.
If they want to do that they can take foreign nationals already.

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Originally posted by sh76
Don't you think that promoting a system whereby countries are willing to send ambassadors to the countries they are enemies of makes sense?
No

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why don't you ( faux intellectuals ) wait for the facts.

maybe this gentleman was the victim of a crime.

is it possible that crime exists in pakistan ?

i think sometimes that most of the people who post here live on welfare...they borrow their brains from those who think.

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Originally posted by sh76
... and the fact the countries don't want their diplomats in enemy countries arrested on trumped up charges every time the other country wants to make a political statement.
Such a principle hardly applies under the facts as known in this case, does it? It's one thing to encourage the exchange of ambassadors and diplomatic personnel; it's quite another to ignore the gunning down of your citizens in the streets.

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Originally posted by reinfeld
maybe this gentleman was the victim of a crime.
Maybe so. But shouldn't there be due legal process? Or should this process be by-passed by citing 'diplomatic immunity'? Nobody here has said anything about not 'waiting for the facts'.

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Originally posted by FMF
Maybe so. But shouldn't there be due legal process? Or should this process be by-passed by citing 'diplomatic immunity'? Nobody here has said anything about not 'waiting for the facts'.
LOL @ "due legal process" in Pakistan

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