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One of our posters has suggested the existence of such governmental regulation.
Very very interesting. He did not elaborate, but can anyone weigh in on what he might have meant by that? He wrote that within a comment on our 'present system'.
Yes, it is worth its own thread. Huge stuff.

Ref: The Musk thread

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@averagejoe1 said
One of our posters has suggested the existence of such governmental regulation.
Very very interesting. He did not elaborate, but can anyone weigh in on what he might have meant by that? He wrote that within a comment on our 'present system'.
Yes, it is worth its own thread. Huge stuff.

Ref: The Musk thread
I so not have enough information to know what you are on about.

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@averagejoe1 said
One of our posters has suggested the existence of such governmental regulation.
Very very interesting. He did not elaborate, but can anyone weigh in on what he might have meant by that? He wrote that within a comment on our 'present system'.
Yes, it is worth its own thread. Huge stuff.

Ref: The Musk thread
It's right out of Karl Marx and Stalin.
Also Pol Pot. Mao. Castro, and a few dozen other hardcore commie tyrants that took over and made slaves of the populace. ,

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@averagejoe1 said
One of our posters has suggested the existence of such governmental regulation.
Very very interesting. He did not elaborate, but can anyone weigh in on what he might have meant by that? He wrote that within a comment on our 'present system'.
Yes, it is worth its own thread. Huge stuff.

Ref: The Musk thread
If the government gives it to you, like a factory or stadium, should the government regulate it?

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@AverageJoe1
Regulating the ownership of what? Marijuana? Sounds like government regulation to me, or regulating whether or not you have car insurance, pretty regulated.
I assume you mean there is regulation you don't like personally and will work to stop all of that stupid regulation crap like when assault rifles were banned in 94, for ten years and lo and behold the death rate from assault rifles went down 70% but I guess that kind of regulation that helps slow down the deaths from gun violence, not in MY town will I stand for ANY regulation of assault rifles.
THAT kind of regulation?

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@sonhouse said
@AverageJoe1
Regulating the ownership of what? Marijuana? Sounds like government regulation to me, or regulating whether or not you have car insurance, pretty regulated.
I assume you mean there is regulation you don't like personally and will work to stop all of that stupid regulation crap like when assault rifles were banned in 94, for ten years and lo and behold the deat ...[text shortened]... iolence, not in MY town will I stand for ANY regulation of assault rifles.
THAT kind of regulation?
No. He won't say it but he's talking about regulations of those things 'owned' by billionaires who make billions on the backs of public investments.

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@wildgrass said
If the government gives it to you, like a factory or stadium, should the government regulate it?
Assuming they give me something like that, and thankyou very much, it would be mine. So any arrangement which you suggest would have to be contractual. Of course, as you speak of regulations, there are many regulations with which all companies and enterprises must follow. So I would follow them, as I run my own company. Why are your questions so easy, but my questions always seem to be hard, when they are easier than your questions?

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@averagejoe1 said
Assuming they give me something like that, and thankyou very much, it would be mine. So any arrangement which you suggest would have to be contractual. Of course, as you speak of regulations, there are many regulations with which all companies and enterprises must follow. So I would follow them, as I run my own company. Why are your questions so easy, but my questions always seem to be hard, when they are easier than your questions?
Why are your questions so easy, but my questions always seem to be hard, when they are easier than your questions?

The answers seem to be answers but when you don't like the answers you claim they aren't answers at all. Like a Jedi.

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@jj-adams said
It's right out of Karl Marx and Stalin.
Also Pol Pot. Mao. Castro, and a few dozen other hardcore commie tyrants that took over and made slaves of the populace. ,
...and right out of the writings of the Founding Fathers of this country.

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@wildgrass said
Why are your questions so easy, but my questions always seem to be hard, when they are easier than your questions?

The answers seem to be answers but when you don't like the answers you claim they aren't answers at all. Like a Jedi.
My answer is a perfect concise answer to….a govt gives me a business.
But you fly past it. Why do that

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https://founders.archives.gov/documents/Madison/01-14-02-0176

James Madison:

"The great object should be to combat the evil...By the silent operation of laws, which, without violating the rights of property, reduce extreme wealth towards a state of mediocrity, and raise extreme indigence towards a state of comfort"


The Fifth Amendment makes it explicitly clear that it does not violate property rights for the government to take property from the wealthy as long as it is done by due process of law.

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@athousandyoung said
https://founders.archives.gov/documents/Madison/01-14-02-0176

James Madison:

"The great object should be to combat the evil...By the silent operation of laws, which, without violating the rights of property, reduce extreme wealth towards a state of mediocrity, and raise extreme indigence towards a state of comfort"


The Fifth Amendment makes it e ...[text shortened]... ts for the government to take property from the wealthy as long as it is done by due process of law.
Duh. Why state what is already in black and white? Who would not know this ? But, Do you know about, say, the border? Inflation? Child and fentanyl trafficking?
Tell us what you think. Or, you can say "One is charged with jaywalking if he walks across a street". Wow.
Sorry man but you are a lightweight.

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@averagejoe1 said
Duh. Why state what is already in black and white? Who would not know this ? But, Do you know about, say, the border? Inflation? Child and fentanyl trafficking?
Tell us what you think. Or, you can say "One is charged with jaywalking if he walks across a street". Wow.
Sorry man but you are a lightweight.
What does any of that have to do with government regulation of owning things?

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@wildgrass said
Why are your questions so easy, but my questions always seem to be hard, when they are easier than your questions?

The answers seem to be answers but when you don't like the answers you claim they aren't answers at all. Like a Jedi.
And like the Jedi, he claims the moral high ground but is a complete hypocrite.

(No, I don't like Star Wars. At all.)

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@athousandyoung said
What does any of that have to do with government regulation of owning things?
Sorry. You made such a simple statement about the law, that one must do everything legally. Duh, I say. We all know that. So I was suggesting that you might write about real problems in America. Not boring statements like that one was.

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