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Originally posted by scoffs2001
if there is a God then He loves me and He'll take care of me anyway. it always seems that needy people turn to God. murderers, rapists and an assortment of scum all turning to Christ to save their souls. do i really want to go to Heaven with myra hindley and jeffrey dahmer...i dont think so. what about the good people in the world that are agnostic.. are they going to hell?
You mean good by human standards right. Because by God's Standards all have sinned and fallen short of the Glory of god.

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Originally posted by StarValleyWy
Hi Joe!

How's my favorite stubborn damn dutch guy?

You know my heart is with you but it looks like another long night on the ropes.

Sorry.

Mike

Hi SVW,

You know i'm not stubborn, it's called stand fast !

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Originally posted by ivanhoe

Hi SVW,

You know i'm not stubborn, it's called stand fast !
Right!

I almost forgetted.

How you doin' Joe?

I hope you are well. I be ok.

rwingett
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Originally posted by RBHILL
The Christians God allows the Devil to do evil stuff so that people will cry out to God in there time of need and save them.
So god allows the devil to commit evil. In otherwords, evil couldn't happen without god's consent. God could stop the devil from committing evil, or he could defeat the devil completely, but he chooses not to. It seems that god likes this racket that he and the devil have come up with. God doesn't like to get his hands dirty, so he has the devil do all his dirty work for him while he sits back and basks in the power and the glory.

If your god does exist, he is just as guilty as the devil. He bears an equal burden in the responsibility for evil.

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Originally posted by StarValleyWy
Right!

I almost forgetted.

How you doin' Joe?

I hope you are well. I be ok.

I'm OK SVW. It's terribly hot here in the Low Countries. It's one o'clock in the morning (night) and I'm sweating my head off ...

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Originally posted by ivanhoe

I'm OK SVW. It's terribly hot here in the Low Countries. It's one o'clock in the morning (night) and I'm sweating my head off ...
You would have enjoyed being here in Zion last night. About five o'clock we got a downpour. Wonderful! Water.

Utah is a desert you know.

This morning I went for the paper and did a double take. It was actually cool on the stoop. I (did) set and watch the sun come up. My puppy dog got to smell the entire perimeter for a change. She loved it.

mike

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Originally posted by StarValleyWy
You would have enjoyed being here in Zion last night. About five o'clock we got a downpour. Wonderful! Water.

Utah is a desert you know.

This morning I went for the paper and did a double take. It was actually cool on the stoop. I (did) set and watch the sun come up. My puppy dog got to smell the entire perimeter for a change. She loved it.

mike

Utah, isn't that the place they go to to make those westerns because of the beautiful scenery ? Those "blocks" of mountains standing in the desert ?

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Originally posted by ivanhoe

Utah, isn't that the place they go to to make those westerns because of the beautiful scenery ? Those "blocks" of mountains standing in the desert ?

Yup.

It is "Castle Valley". It is acutally on the border beteen Utah and Arizona. Having been a resident of both... I have no favoritism. Let's call it Arizuta!

The good news is that the Navaho Nation extracts three point seven million dollars for each movie. They are the owners. <sorry Rob. So much for exploitation>

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Originally posted by rwingett
So god allows the devil to commit evil. In otherwords, evil couldn't happen without god's consent. God could stop the devil from committing evil, or he could defeat the devil completely, but he chooses not to. It seems that god likes this racket that he and the devil have come up with. God doesn't like to get his hands dirty, so he has the devil do all h ...[text shortened]... st, he is just as guilty as the devil. He bears an equal burden in the responsibility for evil.
Yes there is a spiritual war going on and we are in the middle of it.

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Originally posted by rwingett
So god allows the devil to commit evil. In otherwords, evil couldn't happen without god's consent. God could stop the devil from committing evil, or he could defeat the devil completely, but he chooses not to. It seems that god likes thi ...[text shortened]... e devil. He bears an equal burden in the responsibility for evil.
Your theology is indeed "incredible", Mr. Rwingo ... 😉 What a load of genuine b******t

loool .... You should apply for a job as a standup Comedian in the Bible belt. Success garanteed !!

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Originally posted by ivanhoe
Your theology is indeed "incredible", Mr. Rwingo ... 😉 What a load of genuine b******t

loool .... You should apply for a job as a standup Comedian in the Bible belt. Success garanteed !!

Is there a devil? If so, how could he continue to exist except by the grace of god? Either god is unable to defeat the devil, in which case he is not omnipotent, or he is capable of defeating him, but is quite happy with letting the devil run amok, in which case he is not omnibenevolent. It's just a variation on the problem of evil which we have touched on before. The christian conception of god is not compatible with the presence of evil in the world.

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Originally posted by rwingett
Is there a devil? If so, how could he continue to exist except by the grace of god? Either god is unable to defeat the devil, in which case he is not omnipotent, or he is capable of defeating him, but is quite happy with letting the devil run amok, in which case he is not omnibenevolent. It's just a variation on the problem of evil which we have touched on ...[text shortened]... fore. The christian conception of god is not compatible with the presence of evil in the world.

Your theology is not compatible with reality, Rwingo !

I suggest if you want to criticise (Roman Catholic) theology you should study it first !!

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Originally posted by ivanhoe

Your theology is not compatible with reality, Rwingo !

I suggest if you want to criticise (Roman Catholic) theology you should study it first !!
yes! Since when did a commie who condoned the slaying of five million peasants earn the right to judge the slaying of two million in the wars of the inquisition?

<giggle>

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Originally posted by StarValleyWy
yes! Since when did a commie who condoned the slaying of five million peasants earn the right to judge the slaying of two million in the wars of the inquisition?

<giggle>
Everything reduces to commies for you...

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Originally posted by Dissident Dan
Everything reduces to commies for you...
Or decent people. Like the five million &lt;edit... peasants that&gt; Stalin murdered.

yup.

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