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07 Sep 23
@mchill saidwhat do you suggest be done to stop mass shootings?
Monday: Mass Shooting
Tuesday: Mass Shooting
Wednesday: Mass Shooting
Thursday: Mass Shooting
Friday: Mass Shooting
Saturday: Mass Shooting
Sunday: Mass Shooting
Republican response: Hey- Get that trans athlete off the girls' team!! ðŸ˜
@mott-the-hoople saidBackground checks, registering guns/ammo, laws blocking people convicted of violent crimes from owing them, closing the boyfriend loophole, limiting sale and purchase of automatic weapons, banning certain automatic weapons....
what do you suggest be done to stop mass shootings?
All good places to start.
@vivify saidmost of your suggestions are already LAW
Background checks, registering guns/ammo, laws blocking people convicted of violent crimes from owing them, closing the boyfriend loophole, limiting sale and purchase of automatic weapons, banning certain automatic weapons....
All good places to start.
@mott-the-hoople saidYes, I note that he follows mob protocol and does not close his post.
what do you suggest be done to stop mass shootings?
@vivify said........and, my granny says all the bad guys already have guns, so what shall we gain in this discussion? All ears, me and Granny.
Background checks, registering guns/ammo, laws blocking people convicted of violent crimes from owing them, closing the boyfriend loophole, limiting sale and purchase of automatic weapons, banning certain automatic weapons....
All good places to start.
@earl-of-trumps saidNope. Red states like Alabama and Florida don't require registration of guns. Many states still haven’t closed the boyfriend loophole.
most of your suggestions are already LAW
30 states don't require background checks:
https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/video/universal-background-checks-gun-licenses-not-required-in-30-states-149542469704
And Republicans keep fighting existing gun laws:
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/29/us/nashville-gun-laws.html
07 Sep 23
@vivify saidWant to talk about the elephant in the room? If all the mass shootings perpetrated by bleeps, usually against other bleeps were removed from the stats then the stats wouldn't look that dissimilar than a lot of other countries.
Background checks, registering guns/ammo, laws blocking people convicted of violent crimes from owing them, closing the boyfriend loophole, limiting sale and purchase of automatic weapons, banning certain automatic weapons....
All good places to start.
About the most dangerous location for being a victim of a mass shooting is something known as a 'block party'.
@wajoma saidhttps://www.statista.com/statistics/476456/mass-shootings-in-the-us-by-shooter-s-race/
Want to talk about the elephant in the room? If all the mass shootings perpetrated by bleeps, usually against other bleeps were removed from the stats then the stats wouldn't look that dissimilar than a lot of other countries.
About the most dangerous location for being a victim of a mass shooting is something known as a 'block party'.
There are more white mass shooters than all other races combined.
@vivify saidOk, you did ask, you do want to play. It takes some time, and I promise to get back to you, but in the meantime would you like to estimate mass shooters for the month of August by race.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/476456/mass-shootings-in-the-us-by-shooter-s-race/
There are more whites shooting up schools than all other races combined.
Given that bleeps represent about 14% of the US pop. what % of mass shooters for August were bleeps, I don't know the numbers yet myself but we've been through this exercise a couple of times for previous months so unless there's been a massive change I'm going to estimate not 14% which would reflect race by head of pop, I'm going to say more than 70% of mass shootings for the month of August were mainly bleeps against bleeps.
I've made an estimate, now you post your estimate then I'll get back with the actual.
07 Sep 23
@wajoma saidhttps://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0091743522002250
Ok, you did ask, you do want to play. It takes some time, and I promise to get back to you, but in the meantime would you like to estimate mass shooters for the month of August by race.
Given that bleeps represent about 14% of the US pop. what % of mass shooters for August were bleeps, I don't know the numbers yet myself but we've been through this exercise a couple of ti ...[text shortened]... nst bleeps.
I've made an estimate, now you post your estimate then I'll get back with the actual.
"White shooters were overrepresented in mass public shootings with the most victims"
"White shooters had higher median fatalities and total victims".
I don't actually care which race is doing most of the shooting. The problem is we need sensible gun laws that conservatives help fighting against. More needless deaths will because of this.
@vivify saidYou don't care yet you post stats when you think they go in your favor?
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0091743522002250
"White shooters were overrepresented in mass public shootings with the most victims"
"White shooters had higher median fatalities and total victims".
I don't actually care which race is doing most of the shooting. The problem is we need sensible gun laws that conservatives help fighting against. More needless deaths will because of this.
vivify twice posts her stats then wants to abandon the stats.
Go ahead post your estimate, what is the race of mass shooters for the month of August, then I'll post the real numbers. The numbers are astonishing and have a bearing on why mass shootings are happening and therefore what can be done to reduce them, it's extremely relevant.
Man up, or rather, in your case, lady up, put you money where your lipstick is. You want to treat gun owners as a group there are other more telling stats regarding mass shootings and who is committing them that have nothing to do with your proposed controls.
@wajoma saidYou brought up race. Not me or anyone else. I only posted twice about shootings by race because you did.
You don't care yet you post stats when you think they go in your favor?
vivify twice posts her stats then wants to abandon the stats.
But I don't care about this topic when it's used hijack the real problem: lack of gun control.
@vivify saidYes you did, now it looks like the stats might not go your way you're slithering like an eel, you'd like to abandon them 'stat's? what stats?'.
I only posted twice about shootings by race because you did.
Very unladylike behavior.
There is more to it than just piling a lot of control, regulation and fees on law abiding responsible gun owners.
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08 Sep 23
@vivify saiddo you honestly think making guns illegal will stop anything?
Background checks, registering guns/ammo, laws blocking people convicted of violent crimes from owing them, closing the boyfriend loophole, limiting sale and purchase of automatic weapons, banning certain automatic weapons....
All good places to start.