Originally posted by USArmyParatrooperIf the Boy Scouts begins indoctrinating children about sex in any way then they should not be called a faith based organization. It simply should not be talked about. That means that gays should be able to join so long as they deny being gay. In fact, I'm sure it's happened in the past.
Do the Boy Scouts ban straight people who had/have sex before marriage? Nope.
04 Feb 13
Originally posted by whodeyStandard copout line to mask discrimination. Does it also mean they have to deny being straight?
If the Boy Scouts begins indoctrinating children about sex in any way then they should not be called a faith based organization. It simply should not be talked about. That means that gays should be able to join so long as they deny being gay. In fact, I'm sure it's happened in the past.
04 Feb 13
Originally posted by EladarAs I said, as a whole I wouldn't compare them to the KKK. Hell, my nephew was an Eagle Scout and I'm proud if him. But their banishment of gays is no less bigoted than that of the KKK.
I suppose on the topic of nationalism, anyone who is nationalistic is equivelant to Nazis when it comes to the issue of nationalism.
04 Feb 13
Originally posted by USArmyParatrooperYour desire to belittle Christian beliefs is just as bigoted.
As I said, as a whole I wouldn't compare them to the KKK. Hell, my nephew was an Eagle Scout and I'm proud if him. But their banishment of gays is no less bigoted than that of the KKK.
Originally posted by USArmyParatrooperDid you mean in order to have free speech one must be bisexual?
Actually you're wrong. There are plenty of pro gay discrimination groups that speak out against gay rights organizations.
Nobody is saying it should be illegal for people to be bigots, but freedom of speech goes both ways.
04 Feb 13
Originally posted by whodeyI agree they should not even ask, but also neither gays nor straights should have to go out of their way to hide their sexuality from the organization.
To be honest, they should not even ask.
But hey, they should be able to do as they please.
I agree they should be able to do as they please, just as we should be able to speak out against bigoted policies.
Originally posted by USArmyParatrooperIf I enjoyed being a scouting leader, I would have no problem hiding my sexual orientation, whatever that may be.
I agree they should not even ask, but also neither gays nor straights should have to go out of their way to hide their sexuality from the organization.
I agree they should be able to do as they please, just as we should be able to speak out against bigoted policies.
Sometimes being a servant is just that. You place the needs of the individuals ahead of your own.