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@shavixmir said
As far as I know, there is only one US politician being actively investigated for paedophilia. And that’s a republican (Gaetz). Something to do with sex with a minor and sex trafficking.

One would think the republican party would tread carefully on this issue.
You don't remember DENNIS HASTERT?
Republican Speaker of The House, 1999-2007,
wrestling coach, liked to give the young male
House Interns ''private lessons.''
Republicans don't wanna' remember him either.
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/sep/15/dennis-hastert-ex-house-speaker-settles-child-sexu/

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@jimm619 said
Do you mean like when, Donald Trump
kissed PUTIN'S ass in HELSINKI?
I was embarrassed, for our country, weren't you?
I'm not a huge fan of Trump but I'm not a huge fan of many Democratic ideas either. (If you want to talk about Trump and Russia, it is worth mentioning that Putin wasn't willing to risk Trumps reaction to an invasion of the Ukraine, but he certainly doesnt seem afraid of Biden's reaction.)
But that's not the issue here people feel differently about different issues and everyone should be OK with that. I just find it absolutely crazy to think somehow democracy is over if we adopt some ideas of Republicans.

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@quackquack said
I'm not a huge fan of Trump but I'm not a huge fan of many Democratic ideas either. (If you want to talk about Trump and Russia, it is worth mentioning that Putin wasn't willing to risk Trumps reaction to an invasion of the Ukraine, but he certainly doesnt seem afraid of Biden's reaction.)
But that's not the issue here people feel differently about different issues and ev ...[text shortened]... t find it absolutely crazy to think somehow democracy is over if we adopt some ideas of Republicans.
I agree with you...about the issues......Good men may disagree.,
but why is it that The GOP must automatically oppose whatever The Dems put forward?...That is not statesmanship.....Today's GOP is more about winning than doing what is good for the nation......Today's judicial vote for example.
When OBAMA was taking the oath of office, Moscow Mitch and his minions proposed ''.....to make OBAMA a one term president....by not allowing any of his proposals to advance........Judge Garland?...............Good men may disagree but by anyone's standards Donald Trump was a failed presidency and history will reflect as much.

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@quackquack
So the four hundred plus bills floating through state legislators has nothing to do with reducing the ability of blacks, browns, Asians, elderly to vote means NOTHING to you.
OBVIOUSLY.

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@quackquack
It looks like you TOTALLY ignore the FACT JACK the ENTIRE PLANET has condemned Putin and his horrible attacks on civilians.

When will you be moving to Moscow and joining in the Russian military to keep killing all those Ukranian NAZI's committing genocide on those poor innocent Russians in the east of Ukraine?

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@sh76 said
Aside from your wild purple rhetoric, your post contains two points:

1. Republicans have accused ALL democrats of being pedophiles
2. Republicans voted against the infrastructure bill

Aside from a few QAnon whackos, I know of nobody who is claiming anything close to "ALL democrats being pedophiles." Which mainstream Republican has even made an issue of of Democratic pedop ...[text shortened]... e going to scream about ending freedom and democracy, your examples ought to be a little bit better.
If Qanon are just a few whackos why are republican politicos constantly playing to that particular audience, especially around primary time?

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@kevcvs57 said
If Qanon are just a few whackos why are republican politicos constantly playing to that particular audience, especially around primary time?
Which mainstream Republicans are harping on Pizzagate and the like?

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@jimm619 said
TAYLOR-GREENE
https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/3261357-marjorie-taylor-greenes-pedophile-accusation-highlights-washingtons-first-amendment-dilemma/
JOSH HAWLEY
https://medium.com/the-bad-influence/josh-hawley-apologized-for-holding-republican-pedophiles-accountable-e3d6e1db8de7
LAUREN BOEBERT
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/lauren-boebert-canada-liberated-like-ukraine_n_621befeae4b0d1388f16985a
MTG is not mainstream. She's a fringe whacko.

Hawley was criticizing light sentences given to chomos, not calling all Democrats pedophiles. (Geez; that article is wild incomprehensible Gibberish on Medium that looks like it belongs in the National Enquirer - what is your point in linking to it?)

The Boebert HuffPo article you cited has nothing to do with any of this.

I don't at all get your point in citing any of these.

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@sh76 said
Which mainstream Republicans are harping on Pizzagate and the like?
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjksfSpv4T3AhWx8bsIHR8ZBb4QFnoECAkQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theguardian.com%2Fus-news%2F2022%2Fapr%2F07%2Frepublicans-ketanji-brown-jackson-qanon-far-right&usg=AOvVaw1Bp4iID7GDoygLwiOOcSh2“

“The beginning of Jackson’s confirmation hearings last month spurred a new, alarming line of attack from certain Republicans. In a Twitter thread shared days before the start of the hearings, Josh Hawley, a member of the Senate judiciary committee, claimed Jackson had a “pattern of letting child porn offenders off the hook for their appalling crimes”.

Hawley’s claims were quickly debunked by factcheckers and even conservative legal experts, who showed that Jackson’s sentencing practices for child abuse image offenders were in the mainstream for federal judges. One White House official dismissed Hawley’s claims as an “embarrassing, QAnon-signaling smear”, referring to the baseless conspiracy theory that Democratic leaders are members of an evil cabal involved in child sex trafficking. The left-leaning organization Media Matters reported that Hawley’s comments quickly spread on internet forums linked to QAnon.

But instead of abandoning the accusation when it was proved to be demonstrably false and potentially dangerous, more Republican senators joined Hawley in grilling Jackson about her handling of child abuse cases.

Lindsey Graham, who voted to confirm Jackson to the US court of appeals for the DC circuit last year, told her during the hearings, “Every judge who does what you are doing is making it easier for the children to be exploited.”

Graham, who previously voted for both of Barack Obama’s supreme court nominees and has now become a close ally of Donald Trump, serves as a case study in the Republican party’s move toward the far right.”

So Hawley and Graham are not mainstream republicans then

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@kevcvs57 said
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjksfSpv4T3AhWx8bsIHR8ZBb4QFnoECAkQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theguardian.com%2Fus-news%2F2022%2Fapr%2F07%2Frepublicans-ketanji-brown-jackson-qanon-far-right&usg=AOvVaw1Bp4iID7GDoygLwiOOcSh2“

“The beginning of Jackson’s confirmation hearings last month spurred a new, alarming line of attack from cert ...[text shortened]... ican party’s move toward the far right.”

So Hawley and Graham are not mainstream republicans then
Saying someone is soft on crime is not the same thing as saying that person commits those crimes. That some judge lets a thief off the hook too lightly doesn't make him a thief. The OP said that Republicans accuse ALL Democrats of being pedophiles. That Republicans think some judges have let pedophiles off the hook too lightly does not support that statement.

While this obvious point may require a slight degree of subtlety that it beyond the Twitterverse, wherein the median attention span is roughly equal to that of a houseplant, that doesn't excuse patently unsound arguments.

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Anyway, contrary to what the Guardian thinks, attacking judges for giving sentences deemed by the attacker as too light is hardly new or alarming. The tactic, while often unfair or unfounded, is as old as time.

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@jimm619 said
I agree with you...about the issues......Good men may disagree.,
but why is it that The GOP must automatically oppose whatever The Dems put forward?...That is not statesmanship.....Today's GOP is more about winning than doing what is good for the nation......Today's judicial vote for example.
When OBAMA was taking the oath of office, Moscow Mitch and his minions proposed ' ...[text shortened]... ree but by anyone's standards Donald Trump was a failed presidency and history will reflect as much.
Look at the vote to confirm for Ketanji Brown Jackson.

53-47.

When Sandra Day O'Connor was confirmed, the vote was 99-0.

The times, they are a-changin'.

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@sonhouse said
@quackquack
So the four hundred plus bills floating through state legislators has nothing to do with reducing the ability of blacks, browns, Asians, elderly to vote means NOTHING to you.
OBVIOUSLY.
Your hysteria is a joke. There isn't a single law that denies someone to vote because of their race. It makes sense to have IDs to vote. You can scream all you want but it isn't ending democracy.

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@suzianne said
Look at the vote to confirm for Ketanji Brown Jackson.

53-47.

When Sandra Day O'Connor was confirmed, the vote was 99-0.

The times, they are a-changin'.
That change didn't happen overnight, nor was it confined to one side of the aisle.

Ruth Bader Ginsburg was confirmed 96-3.

Amy Coney Barrett was confirmed 52-48.

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@sonhouse said
@quackquack
It looks like you TOTALLY ignore the FACT JACK the ENTIRE PLANET has condemned Putin and his horrible attacks on civilians.

When will you be moving to Moscow and joining in the Russian military to keep killing all those Ukranian NAZI's committing genocide on those poor innocent Russians in the east of Ukraine?
You are just screaming for no reason. I did not comment on the fact that Putin has been (justifiably) condemned.
I only stated one fact: Putin did not attack Ukraine when Trump was president but did when Biden was president.
I am not a huge fan of Trump's general demeanor. But it is fair to say that he did not get us into any wars or even conflicts as big as the Ukraine and despite a major pandemic the economy kept chugging along without the run away inflation we have now. In a free society people should have the freedom to evaluate whether times were bad. I think things could have been a lot worse and in many ways are worse now.

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