Russia courting African nations

@metal-brain said
How many military bases does Russia have in Africa? Do you know how many military bases the USA has in Africa?

https://rumble.com/v34v9y0-nigers-new-government-wants-u.s.-troops-out.html

My government is just sore they lost their puppet government in Niger and there is no evidence Russia had anything to do with it.

Non sequitur. Again.

@rajk999 said
Yes, but what is interesting is how you took so long to give a straight answer. Makes me wonder why.

I thought you had the common sense to understand why trusting a colonizer is not good for Africans.

Silly me.

@rajk999 said
Yes, but what is interesting is how you took so long to give a straight answer. Makes me wonder why.

Anyway I disagree. The African countries in questions should take Putins help. These countries are very poor and in some cases as much as 75% lives below the poverty line. Its like a rich politician walks into a depressed neighbourhood and promises to bring employment a ...[text shortened]... ] is/are a scumbag/s. Should they say no?

Who cares about the mans morals ? Are you playing God?

True colors, eh?

Finally.

@vivify said
I thought you had the common sense to understand why trusting a colonizer is not good for Africans.

Silly me.

Silly you indeed. You people do not live in the real world. You think starving people living in abject poverty {like in Niger and most parts of Africa], watching their kids starve, should care about
- your politics
- your gender
- your slave history
- your BLM garbage
- your Woke hypocrisy ?

The people need food, clothes, shelter, jobs and a decent life, regardless of who gives it to them. Colonization was a blessing. Had it not been for that, people like you would be starving in Africa as well, hoping for the Russians to take pity on them and ease their plight.

@rajk999 said
Silly you indeed. You people do not live in the real world. You think starving people living in abject poverty {like in Niger and most parts of Africa], watching their kids starve, should care about
- your politics
- your gender
- your slave history
- your BLM garbage
- your Woke hypocrisy ?

The people need food, clothes, shelter, jobs and a decent life, regardless ...[text shortened]... d be starving in Africa as well, hoping for the Russians to take pity on them and ease their plight.

YouTube : Trevor Noah Africa

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/russia-wagner-group-central-african-republic-bambari-massacre-rape-mass-murder/

@rajk999 said
Silly you indeed. You people do not live in the real world. You think starving people living in abject poverty {like in Niger and most parts of Africa], watching their kids starve, should care about
- your politics
- your gender
- your slave history
- your BLM garbage
- your Woke hypocrisy ?

The people need food, clothes, shelter, jobs and a decent life, regardless ...[text shortened]... d be starving in Africa as well, hoping for the Russians to take pity on them and ease their plight.

Was slavery a blessing to them as well, taking them to the land of opportunity and away from their meager life in Africa?

@suzianne said
Was slavery a blessing to them as well, taking them to the land of opportunity and away from their meager life in Africa?

If immigration were free and open between (let's say for example) Niger and the US, which way do you think the flow of people would be?

@suzianne said
Was slavery a blessing to them as well, taking them to the land of opportunity and away from their meager life in Africa?

Yes it was. Life in Africa in1600 for example, was a horrendous existence, poverty, starvation, hard work, tribal warfare where people were murdered, women raped, and enslaved by other tribes. Many movies have falsely characterized life in Africa in that slave period as an idyllic existence which was ended by the evil slave masters. You can swallow that BS if you like but it is not the truth.

Today given the opportunity 99% of the African population, would leave their home country and settle in any developed country. Even in the Caribbean we have hundreds of African doctors and other qualified professional who prefer not to work in their country of birth. Their home country is a cesspool of corruption, incompetence, poverty and suffering.

In other words ... nothing has changed in the last 500 years.

@rajk999 said
Yes it was. Life in Africa in1600 for example, was a horrendous existence, poverty, starvation, hard work, tribal warfare where people were murdered, women raped, and enslaved by other tribes. Many movies have falsely characterized life in Africa in that slave period as an idyllic existence which was ended by the evil slave masters. You can swallow that BS if you like bu ...[text shortened]... ncompetence, poverty and suffering.

In other words ... nothing has changed in the last 500 years.

1600. An interesting year to choose. That's when the Empire of Dahomey was established with all the murder, tribal warfare and enslavement at the core of their society.

It didn't exist before 1600 because there was no Atlantic slave trade to fund such an Empire.

@athousandyoung said
Eastern Europe is to Russia what West Africa is to France. Since France is making it hard for Russia to control it's "natural sphere of influence" Russia is doing the same to France.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permanent_members_of_the_United_Nations_Security_Council#/media/File:1945_UNSC_P5_+_colonies.png

Natural sphere of influence 🙄 yeah sure a medieval regime gets to have a S o I in 21 century Europe.
No Europeans or any non African nation should consider Africa a sphere of influence
Wagner is the most blatant example of Neo colonialism in Africa today.

@athousandyoung said
1600. An interesting year to choose. That's when the Empire of Dahomey was established with all the murder, tribal warfare and enslavement at the core of their society.

It didn't exist before 1600 because there was no Atlantic slave trade to fund such an Empire.

What nonsense !! Is that what they teach in your colleges? The truth is that slavery in Africa is a way of life. Always was for thousands of years, and is still so today, among certain tribes. Europeans did not introduce slavery into Africa. They arrived in Africa and they met slavery there.

Here are some of the facts:

Europeans did not introduce slavery to Africa. As African rulers rose and fell, their political opponents, people of high social status, and their families were sold to promote internal political stability. Poor people were sold to reconcile debts owed by themselves or their families. Chiefs sold people as punishment for crimes. Gangs of Africans and a few marauding Europeans captured free Africans who were also sold into slavery. Domestic slaves were resold and prisoners of war were sold. Africans themselves carried out the capture and sale of other Africans for enslavement -- few Europeans ever actually marched inland and captured slaves themselves.

https://www.ncpedia.org/anchor/africans-atlantic-slave

@rajk999 said
What nonsense !! Is that what they teach in your colleges? The truth is that slavery in Africa is a way of life. Always was for thousands of years, and is still so today, among certain tribes. Europeans did not introduce slavery into Africa. They arrived in Africa and they met slavery there.

Here are some of the facts:

Europeans did not introduce slavery to Africa. ...[text shortened]... inland and captured slaves themselves.

https://www.ncpedia.org/anchor/africans-atlantic-slave

Do you feel comforted to read this which you have quoted Rajk999?

The truth is none of us were alive then, and even if we were we'd have our own take on what happened and if it was justified or not.

It's interesting to read different peoples ways of seeing the world that's for sure.

@yo-its-me said
Do you feel comforted to read this which you have quoted Rajk999?

The truth is none of us were alive then, and even if we were we'd have our own take on what happened and if it was justified or not.

It's interesting to read different peoples ways of seeing the world that's for sure.

Comforted? What a strange comment? None of us were alive then? Another strange comment.

So what is the prevailing opinion in your neck of the woods? Is it that Europeans went into Africa, which was peaceful and prosperous, grabbed the people and enslaved them? Is that what comforts you? If you are comforted by lies then you live in a delusional world and belong in an institution for such people. I am comforted by the truth, whatever it is.

@rajk999 said
Comforted? What a strange comment? None of us were alive then? Another strange comment.

So what is the prevailing opinion in your neck of the woods? Is it that Europeans went into Africa, which was peaceful and prosperous, grabbed the people and enslaved them? Is that what comforts you? Dont know about you but if you are comforted by lies then you live in a delusi ...[text shortened]... world and belong in an institution for such people.

I am comforted by the truth, whatever it is.

It's history, you won't ever know the absolute truth.
What I was taught was that the trade came about for various reasons which came together for bad. Essentially, at some point, the slave trade became a business because some humans could be thought of as not equal. In part because in the UK we had already accepted that the Royals were at the top of a hierarchy and the upper class, middle class and working class were all in their place. Which made it easy for the population to accept there was another layer, that all where above the slaves.
The human mind is an amazing thing. A group of people can be persuaded a lie even though objectively any from that same group would identify the lie, collectively they accept it.
It doesn't comfort me to hear your logic that Africans were already enslaving themselves, so it wasn't a leap for us to join in.
The truth is not always a comfort to learn the truth either, btw, the truth on any subject can be painful. Lies are often comforting to hear.

@yo-its-me said
It's history, you won't ever know the absolute truth.
What I was taught was that the trade came about for various reasons which came together for bad. Essentially, at some point, the slave trade became a business because some humans could be thought of as not equal. In part because in the UK we had already accepted that the Royals were at the top of a hierarchy and the upp ...[text shortened]... n the truth either, btw, the truth on any subject can be painful. Lies are often comforting to hear.

Re-writing history and denying the truth are two characteristics of a narcissist. Get some professional help.