23 Oct 20
@averagejoe1 saidYes that was hilarious, also faulting the US for not keeping track of the parents when they disappeared, like somehow the parents had no responsibility to ask about their children and let the government know where they were so they could reclaim them.
The parents didn't choose to be illegal. I can't believe I am reading that. I cannot IMAGINE being a liberal.
@no1marauder saidIt means irresponsible parents, Marauder. Whew. Liberal-think is indescribable. Would you drag children across a desert (maybe even someone else's children) to a land which has restricted borders, restricted entry? A no will be fine, thanks.
What does "the government separated the children from their parents" mean to you?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_administration_family_separation_policy
@averagejoe1 saidTrump didn't have the ballsz to defend the policy at the debate, did he? A policy that was discontinued because of its massive unpopularity.
It means irresponsible parents, Marauder. Whew. Liberal-think is indescribable. Would you drag children across a desert (maybe even someone else's children) to a land which has restricted borders, restricted entry? A no will be fine, thanks.
It's perfectly legal for a person to show up at the US border, with or without their family, and apply for asylum.
At any rate, it is inhumane to separate children from their parents. Even a Trump toady should be willing to admit that.
23 Oct 20
@cheesemaster saidIllegals who were convicted of committing crimes. That's a big difference from Trump.
Obama admin deported more illegals than any admin
23 Oct 20
@cheesemaster saidRight-wing media defending Trump lying to America's face about the seriousness of a pandemic.
@shavixmir
Obviously leftist news and media will say Biden won. 🙄
Have they ever been unbiased? No.
Have they ever been unbiased? Please.
@shavixmir - "I don’t find US politics particularly interesting or uplifting."
Who the hell are you shifting? You can't keep your nose out of OUR business if you tried.
23 Oct 20
@no1marauder saidAre you funnin’ with us? C’mon, man. I drag my child to the entrance , i request asylum. I, along wit 921 other draggers, am denied asylum. What is my logical choice after that? Is it not to turn around and return to Mexico? What ELSE is left to do? A fair question.
Trump didn't have the ballsz to defend the policy at the debate, did he? A policy that was discontinued because of its massive unpopularity.
It's perfectly legal for a person to show up at the US border, with or without their family, and apply for asylum.
At any rate, it is inhumane to separate children from their parents. Even a Trump toady should be willing to admit that.
@earl-of-trumps saidGood point. You will see not one post from me that digs into what other countries are all about. It is none of my business. The problem is, liberals think that everybody else is their business. I think that liberals, in this very forum, think for example, that we should be responsible for the children of other people. That, I should take my children out of private school and let that money go to the government to pay for the public school of everyone else’s children, something like that. Crazy.
@shavixmir - "I don’t find US politics particularly interesting or uplifting."
Who the hell are you shifting? You can't keep your nose out of OUR business if you tried.
23 Oct 20
@averagejoe1 saidIf it was such a great policy, why did Trump discontinue it?
Are you funnin’ with us? C’mon, man. I drag my child to the entrance , i request asylum. I, along wit 921 other draggers, am denied asylum. What is my logical choice after that? Is it not to turn around and return to Mexico? What ELSE is left to do? A fair question.
Maybe Earl the Libertarian can tell you that borders should be open to enhance human freedom. And you like to talk about the country when it was founded; you are aware it had open borders for about the first 100 years?
23 Oct 20
@no1marauder saidAre YOU aware there wasn't the same sort of mass flooding of people across the border for the first 100 years? And even if there was, there were no social service give aways for those people to glom onto.
If it was such a great policy, why did Trump discontinue it?
Maybe Earl the Libertarian can tell you that borders should be open to enhance human freedom. And you like to talk about the country when it was founded; you are aware it had open borders for about the first 100 years?
Save your false comparisons for Biden supporters.
23 Oct 20
@no1marauder saidFunny stuff, your idea of slowly-developing land which slowly developed, creating eventually our borders. Marauder, the borders had to start at some time. Jesus. Do You have a problem with borders?
If it was such a great policy, why did Trump discontinue it?
Maybe Earl the Libertarian can tell you that borders should be open to enhance human freedom. And you like to talk about the country when it was founded; you are aware it had open borders for about the first 100 years?
“Should be open to enhance human freedom”. Define human freedom,,, The only freedom I know about is that which is guaranteed by the Constitution of the United States to its citizens. That is the only freedom I know about. Could you expound, so that we will not misunderstand your thinking, which sounds like every person in this country has the freedom that we do, when they are not even mentioned in the constitution? I googled ‘human freedom’, nothing of note there.
23 Oct 20
@no1marauder saidAnd maybe you should open the door to your house, to let anyone in who wants to live there.
If it was such a great policy, why did Trump discontinue it?
Maybe Earl the Libertarian can tell you that borders should be open to enhance human freedom. And you like to talk about the country when it was founded; you are aware it had open borders for about the first 100 years?
Or don't you want to personally enhance human freedom?
It's always someone else's job, isn't it.
23 Oct 20
@averagejoe1 saidThe Constitution constituted a government, it did not create Rights.
Funny stuff, your idea of slowly-developing land which slowly developed, creating eventually our borders. Marauder, the borders had to start at some time. Jesus. Do You have a problem with borders?
“Should be open to enhance human freedom”. Define human freedom,,, The only freedom I know about is that which is guaranteed by the Constitution of the United States to its ...[text shortened]... they are not even mentioned in the constitution? I googled ‘human freedom’, nothing of note there.
Right wingers are abysmally ignorant of the philosophy of the Founders.