@jj-adams saidI have read of women being killed if they wouldn't drown.
I don't recall women being stoned to death after being raped under Christian law.
but they sure do under Sharia.
Saying one isn't any worse than the other is asinine.
Please don't go back to some Old Testament nonsense to prove how evil Christianity/Judaism is.
Right here in the US 4 centuries ago. In the name of religion.
And women not being allowed to vote until just 100 years ago.
No, they weren't stoned to death. But where does one draw the line ?
You seem to be drawing it at women being stoned to death.
Others might be looking at reproductive freedom.
But there is a line to be drawn.
08 Sep 22
@jj-adams saidOf course the Quran and Muslim law has a lot of dark s*** in it. It was written 1,500 years ago. the Bible has plenty of that crap as well. It was a different era.
Here's a partial list of "the bad stuff".
Theft is punishable by amputation of the hands (Quran 5:38).
• Criticizing or denying any part of the Quran is punishable by death.
• Criticizing Muhammad or denying that he is a prophet is punishable by death.
• Criticizing or denying Allah is punishable by death (see Allah moon god).
• A Muslim who becomes a non-Muslim is pun ...[text shortened]... er husband or relative.
• Muslims should engage in Taqiyya and lie to non-Muslims to advance Islam.
We'd no doubt all be shocked by the idea of a 14 year old girl marrying, but a few centuries ago, it was par for the course and they would be bewildered as to why we think there's anything wrong with that.
Of course it's also true that some governments continue to apply law that's bad s*** today. So how about we just refuse to do or enforce bad s*** and not worry so much about where and when it comes from?
There's a radical concept.
@sh76 saidAnd yet, you vote Republican in Texas.
Of course the Quran and Muslim law has a lot of dark s*** in it. It was written 1,500 years ago. the Bible has plenty of that crap as well. It was a different era.
We'd no doubt all be shocked by the idea of a 14 year old girl marrying, but a few centuries ago, it was par for the course and they would be bewildered as to why we think there's anything wrong with that.
Of co ...[text shortened]... ce bad s*** and not worry so much about where and when it comes from?
There's a radical concept.
You make me puke.
08 Sep 22
@shavixmir saidOh so you do admit that Iran Iraq Saudi Arabia Pakistan Afghanistan and others are executing women that were raped/gays/anyone that criticizes islam/etc are killing people or sending them to prison for not being religiously correct?
No.
I am not denying Saudi behaviour or that it stems from a version of Sharia law.
I’m just pointing out you know nothing about it and that you seem to think that sharia is a single thing.
Thanks, just wanted to clear that up.
But yeah, you are right, Sharia Law is not just one thing.
It's a whole lotta bad things.
Very, very bad things.
08 Sep 22
@jj-adams saidYou really are fukking retarded, aren’t you?
Oh so you do admit that Iran Iraq Saudi Arabia Pakistan Afghanistan and others are executing women that were raped/gays/anyone that criticizes islam/etc are killing people or sending them to prison for not being religiously correct?
Thanks, just wanted to clear that up.
But yeah, you are right, Sharia Law is not just one thing.
It's a whole lotta bad things.
Very, very bad things.
A racist little kunt.
@shallow-blue said===And yet, you vote Republican in Texas.===
And yet, you vote Republican in Texas.
You make me puke.
only in your infertile imagination
08 Sep 22
@shavixmir saidSo...Sharia Law is OK by you?
You really are fukking retarded, aren’t you?
A racist little kunt.
None of those things are going on in the countries ruled by Islam's sick values?
For that matter, how many "Honor killings" have been going on in Western countries because of Sharia Law?
Islam is poison and its followers are sick twisted misogynistic hella-kweers because of the unnatural way they keep women hidden, like a barn animal.
09 Sep 22
@jj-adams saidThere is no way in hell you can conclude that out of anything I’ve written.
So...Sharia Law is OK by you?
None of those things are going on in the countries ruled by Islam's sick values?
For that matter, how many "Honor killings" have been going on in Western countries because of Sharia Law?
Islam is poison and its followers are sick twisted misogynistic hella-kweers because of the unnatural way they keep women hidden, like a barn animal.
What you should conclude, which you’re obviously failing at, is that there are various sorts of Sharia law: some of it extreme and some of it quite mild.
You are focussing on wahhabism.
And not even the Iranians (Shia… so not even Sunni), who themselves are fundamentalists, accept wahhabism.
A sub-point you may (or not) be trying to make is that Sharia courts undermine democracy in democratic countries and that there is room for them to exist in the current framework.
Yes… what an interesting point.
But so do Jewish courts, Catholic orders, protesant churches and sports clubs and work places… they all have room for arbitration. So long as they stay within the framework of the law of the country.
But that IS an interesting discussion.
09 Sep 22
@earl-of-trumps saidGood thing we don't have SHARIA LAW, as THE GOP]
"If I were king of America..." - right. You've heard me express my complete contempt for Sharia Law
and would in fact ban such practitioners in the US. Here's one very good reason why.
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https://www.jpost.com/middle-east/iran-news/article-716282
Iran sentences two gay rights activists to death
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What do these people do, run a gay-o-meter on people to catch them or something? unbelievable.
tried to scare us about, coupla' years back......Remember that?
Screaming about ''SHARIA LAW,' when, all the while,
we had THE U.S. Constitution to protect us..............One of the best fear mongers was that paragon of virtue, 'Newt Gingrich.'
@mghrn55 saidI've read fairy tales, too.
I have read of women being killed if they wouldn't drown.
Right here in the US 4 centuries ago. In the name of religion.
Sorry, darling, but it didn't happen. Don't believe everything the en"light"ened Victorians wrote about the "dark" ages. Almost all of it is a lie, and an intentional one.
(See also: iron maiden; chastity belt; droit de seigneur. All invented in the 1800s in atheist England, not in the 1300s in Roman France or the 1600s in Protestant Germany.)
@mghrn55 saidOMG 400 years ago. Wow.
I have read of women being killed if they wouldn't drown.
Right here in the US 4 centuries ago. In the name of religion.
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Meanwhile it's happening TODAY in Islamophucked countries, so now what?
You people defend Islamic horrors by pointing out ancient laws in an effort to claim Islam is "not so bad" because it used to be the norm centuries ago.
Why can't you just accept that Western Christian countries have evolved beyond that, and Islam is stuck in the Dark Ages?
10 Sep 22
@jj-adams saidIslam is retarded.
OMG 400 years ago. Wow.
Meanwhile it's happening TODAY in Islamophucked countries, so now what?
You people defend Islamic horrors by pointing out ancient laws in an effort to claim Islam is "not so bad" because it used to be the norm centuries ago.
Why can't you just accept that Western Christian countries have evolved beyond that, and Islam is stuck in the Dark Ages?
So are fukking Christians, Jews and everybody else who believe in Gods.
Sorry. The bible is a story. A wee bit of history and a whole load of fabricated bull 💩.
Basing any law or ruling on these antiquated books of moronity is retarded to the max.
There is no God. It’s make-belief.
Stoning people, taking away women’s rights, anti-abortion, not eating pork, anti-gay, anti-trans, going to church, executing prisoners… it’s all retarded and no longer acceptable in the world at large.
And people that believe in these things are mentally unsound and unfit to govern.
10 Sep 22
@shallow-blue saidI take it we invented the Spanish Inquisition as well dear, and did we just imagine the horrors of the reformation and counter reformation wars?
I've read fairy tales, too.
Sorry, darling, but it didn't happen. Don't believe everything the en"light"ened Victorians wrote about the "dark" ages. Almost all of it is a lie, and an intentional one.
(See also: iron maiden; chastity belt; droit de seigneur. All invented in the 1800s in atheist England, not in the 1300s in Roman France or the 1600s in Protestant Germany.)
@kevcvs57 saidMost of the more extreme stories: yes. The Pit and the Pendulum is fiction. Black-clad inquisitors taking you away in the night, never to be seen again... that happened in Argentina under the Junta and in books written by Victorian Englishmen, not in Spain under the Inquisition.
I take it we invented the Spanish Inquisition as well dear, and did we just imagine the horrors of the reformation and counter reformation wars?
Except for the horrors of war, those were real and those wars were horrible. But they were also almost entirely political, with religion only being used as an excuse for various dukelets to get their own back on their rivals.