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@shallow-blue saidMmm I’m pretty sure there are Jews alive today around the world who can trace their ancestry back to one’s who had to leave Spain or convert or die.
Most of the more extreme stories: yes. The Pit and the Pendulum is fiction. Black-clad inquisitors taking you away in the night, never to be seen again... that happened in Argentina under the Junta and in books written by Victorian Englishmen, not in Spain under the Inquisition.
Except for the horrors of war, those were real and those wars were horrible. But they were ...[text shortened]... th religion only being used as an excuse for various dukelets to get their own back on their rivals.
There is always a political and nationalist element to religious persecution and extremism they are usually part of the same heady mix but that doesn’t let Christianity of the hook.
There is a political and nationalist element to Islamic extremism as well.
Religion can always be counted on to rubber stamp man’s inhumanity to man.
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Sad how you all have to dip back into medieval times to prove Christianity is just as bad as Islam, while ignoring the horrors people in Islamic countries must endure today compared to Judeo-Christian countries and all the good they have brought to mankind.
What's next on your list, the Crusades from a thousand years ago?
@jj-adams saidShut up you halfwitted islamaphobe. I personally know 7 practicing Muslims and I do not know one of them that subscribes to any of the barbarism you have mentioned, perhaps it’s the nation states and their victimisation by the west that has in part resulted the adoption of these medieval practices.
Sad how you all have to dip back into medieval times to prove Christianity is just as bad as Islam, while ignoring the horrors people in Islamic countries must endure today compared to Judeo-Christian countries and all the good they have brought to mankind.
What's next on your list, the Crusades from a thousand years ago?
Look at where these things are happening and look at their experience of Christian imperialism with its mass murder and the destruction of functioning non extremist Muslim majority regimes.
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@kevcvs57 saidNot to excuse JJ, but I could say the same about your christianophobia. That doesn't make him better, but it does make you as bad.
Shut up you halfwitted islamaphobe.
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@kevcvs57 saidOh wow you know seven muslims that don't run around with vests made of dynamite or believe women should be stoned after being raped, well hooray for you.
Shut up you halfwitted islamaphobe. I personally know 7 practicing Muslims and I do not know one of them that subscribes to any of the barbarism you have mentioned, perhaps it’s the nation states and their victimisation by the west that has in part resulted the adoption of these medieval practices.
Look at where these things are happening and look at their experience of Chr ...[text shortened]... alism with its mass murder and the destruction of functioning non extremist Muslim majority regimes.
That doesn't change how effed-up Islam is worldwide.
10 Sep 22
@jj-adams saidThe whole point of everything you are missing here is not that one is worse than the other.
OMG 400 years ago. Wow.
Meanwhile it's happening TODAY in Islamophucked countries, so now what?
You people defend Islamic horrors by pointing out ancient laws in an effort to claim Islam is "not so bad" because it used to be the norm centuries ago.
Why can't you just accept that Western Christian countries have evolved beyond that, and Islam is stuck in the Dark Ages?
It is that they point in the same direction.
Suppose for the sake of discussion that we somehow managed to get rid of Islam.
And you know what, let's get rid of the moderates because experience has shown that moderates can bend towards to extremism.
After that, we won't sit on our behinds, pat ourselves on the back and say....
"well, that's done with" .
We will look around for something else to get rid of.
Christianity will not be far down the list.
That's my point !!
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@mghrn55 saidThen your point sucks.
The whole point of everything you are missing here is not that one is worse than the other.
It is that they point in the same direction.
Suppose for the sake of discussion that we somehow managed to get rid of Islam.
And you know what, let's get rid of the moderates because experience has shown that moderates can bend towards to extremism.
After that, we won't sit on our ...[text shortened]... d for something else to get rid of.
Christianity will not be far down the list.
That's my point !!
Islam is a sick vicious diseased religion and needs to be abolished.
10 Sep 22
@jj-adams saidhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord%27s_Resistance_Army
Sad how you all have to dip back into medieval times to prove Christianity is just as bad as Islam, while ignoring the horrors people in Islamic countries must endure today compared to Judeo-Christian countries and all the good they have brought to mankind.
What's next on your list, the Crusades from a thousand years ago?
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@athousandyoung saidThrowing some tiny splinter group of wild Mau-Mau's in as an example of how evil Christianity is just might be one of your stupidest comments.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord%27s_Resistance_Army
There are hundreds of millions of people suffering under the yoke of the Muslim religion and culture. Women may as well be dead for all the misery of the retarded religion they can't escape from, even in the more moderate Muslim countries they are treated little better than dogs.
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@earl-of-trumps saidlink?
30% if immigrant Muslims in the US adhere to sharia law.
Not if I was king!
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@jj-adams saidI would like to thank the person for the single thumbs-up for my comment, would you please step forward?
Throwing some tiny splinter group of wild Mau-Mau's in as an example of how evil Christianity is just might be one of your stupidest comments.
There are hundreds of millions of people suffering under the yoke of the Muslim religion and culture. Women may as well be dead for all the misery of the retarded religion they can't escape from, even in the more moderate Muslim countries they are treated little better than dogs.
11 Sep 22
@jj-adams saidYou missed my point.
Then your point sucks.
Islam is a sick vicious diseased religion and needs to be abolished.
If we get rid of Islam, then let's get rid of Christianity while we're at it.
Point being, while one is more extreme, radical and barbaric than the other, they point in the same direction.
A key point in human advancement is getting rid of some of these fairy tales that serve as ideological nourishment for the stupid !!
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@mghrn55 saidModern Christianity does a lot of good.
You missed my point.
If we get rid of Islam, then let's get rid of Christianity while we're at it.
Point being, while one is more extreme, radical and barbaric than the other, they point in the same direction.
A key point in human advancement is getting rid of some of these fairy tales that serve as ideological nourishment for the stupid !!
Islam does a lot of bad.
THAT'S the point you are missing.
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@shallow-blue saidI don’t have christianophobia I’m simply stating what the Muslim perspective of the Christian west is and how any society, culture or religion can find its lowest common denominator when constantly attacked by outside forces.
Not to excuse JJ, but I could say the same about your christianophobia. That doesn't make him better, but it does make you as bad.
Your constant knee jerk defence of Christianity and your whitewashing of its past and present geopolitical place in the world is noted.
From the perspective of a Middle Eastern Muslim the Crusades have actually not stopped and I would struggle to disagree with that perspective, what say you?
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@no1marauder saidWhat a bunch of maroons.....
To be clear, we've probably had dozens, perhaps hundreds of these threads where right wingers pretend to care about the suppression of minorities (that they despise) in Muslim countries. It's usually a prelude to: A) Making an excuse to attack them; and/or B) Making an excuse to discriminate against and repress Muslims in the US.
Earl looks like he's shooting for B, though probably someone else will pipe in with A.
Ain't no such thing as
Sharia Law in The USA...We have something called
''THE CONSTITUTION'''......hello.....anyone there?