21 Mar 05
Originally posted by ivanhoeChurches should attend to their congregations and support them. I will bet that a high percentage of sermons yesterday had a reference to Terry Schaivo in which they have absolutely no say or investment. The situation with Terry Schaivo happens every day in this country hundreds of times without all the fanfare of this spectacle. It happens in loving homes where families make difficult decisions that they feel are in integrity with the patient, the family , and their God.
Should the Church be silent on the matter of euthanasia and should She stop warning against it ?
What are your thoughts ?
21 Mar 05
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Originally posted by kirksey957So, the Roman Catholic Church and many other churches should stop warning against euthanasia. They should remain silent ... right ?
Churches should attend to their congregations and support them. I will bet that a high percentage of sermons yesterday had a reference to Terry Schaivo in which they have absolutely no say or investment. The situation with Terry Schaiv ...[text shortened]... l are in integrity with the patient, the family , and their God.
21 Mar 05
Originally posted by ivanhoeI think the Roman Catholic church should invest itself in its interest and keep the Pope from being euthanized. They have no particular interest in this individual.
So, the Roman Catholic Church and many other churches should stop warning against euthanasia. They should remain silent ... right ?
21 Mar 05
Originally posted by kirksey957Is it your opinion, then, that Churches should not have an opinion on matters in which they do not have a direct say?
Churches should attend to their congregations and support them. I will bet that a high percentage of sermons yesterday had a reference to Terry Schaivo in which they have absolutely no say or investment. The situation with Terry Schaivo happens every day in this country hundreds of times without all the fanfare of this spectacle. It happens in loving h ...[text shortened]... ficult decisions that they feel are in integrity with the patient, the family , and their God.
21 Mar 05
Originally posted by kirksey957Amen brother. Well said.
Churches should attend to their congregations and support them. I will bet that a high percentage of sermons yesterday had a reference to Terry Schaivo in which they have absolutely no say or investment. The situation with Terry Schaivo happens every day in this country hundreds of times without all the fanfare of this spectacle. It happens in loving h ...[text shortened]... ficult decisions that they feel are in integrity with the patient, the family , and their God.
21 Mar 05
Originally posted by kirksey957
I think the Roman Catholic church should invest itself in its interest and keep the Pope from being euthanized. They have no particular interest in this individual.
I didn't ask whether they should speak out in this particular case, although I think they have a right to do so. I asked whether they should be silent on the issue of euthanasia and stop warning against it.
21 Mar 05
Originally posted by ivanhoeNo, we're actually brothers. Separated at birth by an evil conservative legislature that decreed our mother could only have one child out of wedlock. And since we were twins one of us had to go.
lol .... why do call him brother ? ...... because you are a Christian or because you think Kirk is a black man ? ... or because he is an opponent of the Roman Catholic Church ?
Kind of sad really...
21 Mar 05
Originally posted by wib
No, we're actually brothers. Separated at birth by an evil conservative legislature that decreed our mother could only have one child out of wedlock. And since we were twins one of us had to go.
Kind of sad really...
Kirk will be flabbergasted to hear this .... or maybe not.
21 Mar 05
Originally posted by ivanhoeI don't know what the RCC is saying about this issue exactly. I think it should make known its moral beliefs. So no, it should not remain silent.
Should the Church be silent on the matter of euthanasia and should She stop warning against it ?
What are your thoughts ?
21 Mar 05
Originally posted by ivanhoeIvanhoe, I just don't see it the way you do. It's like you see a conspiracy of culture where people are being put down like old dogs at the veterinarian. Maybe I should stay out of the Netherlands. Like I have said before, I work with terminally ill people and there are many choices that people could make, but they aren't making them. Food and hydration is the big thing I come up against with families all the time. They often get feedback from the patient, their loved one, that they don't want to eat. We have so associated food with "getting strong" or feeling better that we have lost the reality that people who are terminal do not absorb food like healthy people do and it only adds to other problems like congestion and blockages.
I didn't ask whether they should speak out in this particular case, although I think they have a right to do so. I asked whether they should be silent on the issue of euthanasia and stop warning against it.
21 Mar 05
Originally posted by ivanhoeHow am I an opponent of the Roman Catholic church? You and I may disagree on ideas , but I would hardly say I am an opponent of the Catholic church. OK, about the term "brother." In many places in this country it is a term of endearment. It doesn't mean I am related to the person, but that I am fond of the person. In some areas one calls there minister "brother so and so." Why must you be so focused on my ethnicity?
lol .... why do call him brother ? ...... because you are a Christian or because you think Kirk is a black man ? ... or because he is an opponent of the Roman Catholic Church ?
21 Mar 05
Originally posted by kirksey957Ok, to seriously address Ivanhoe's question about the "brother" comment. Yes, Kirksey is correct. I grew up as a member of a Southern Baptist church. Brother is what almost everyone is called in church. "Brother Kirk" will now lead us in prayer. "Brother Marauder" will be passing the collection plate after the hymnal. And so on...
How am I an opponent of the Roman Catholic church? You and I may disagree on ideas , but I would hardly say I am an opponent of the Catholic church. OK, about the term "brother." In many places in this country it is a term of endearment. It doesn't mean I am related to the person, but that I am fond of the person. In some areas one calls there minister "brother so and so." Why must you be so focused on my ethnicity?