Socialism vs Economic Freedom

@kmax87 said
What does your freedom afford you to drive?

@wajoma said
MT10SP, and it's called riding.

Y'self?

@kmax87 said
That's a nice bit of metal. Last time I rode something half as exciting as that, was 40 years ago. Me these days I'm dead boring. I drive an 18 yr old Camry.

@wajoma said
You have got to go to the bike shop and test ride a modern bike, they are all so good, you get a big piece of technology now. Even it large scooter is exciting, practical, comfortable. And every niche is catered to, used to be a trail bike or a road bike, now there's something to fit you.

Go to the bike shop and test ride a new bike, take the cheque book.

@kmax87 said
I forgot about scooters. 20 years ago I had a part time job delivering for Pizza Hut. We rode Liberty 150's. They were a lot of fun, pretty much flat out most of the time.

Is your MT a daily driver or something to get away with on the weekends?

@wajoma said
Main transport besides bicycle, working from home since the drama, small town NZ. I get the feeling you're in Brisbane??

C'mon man, motorcycle city.

How old are you, I'm 58, if you're past 60 maybe a 300cc scooter, swing your leg through instead of over, plenty of weather protection, automatic just twist the throttle. ABS

Scientific equation for the correct number o ...[text shortened]... = how many bikes you own now. I think the 6th bike in my dream garage would be a runaround scooter.

@zahlanzi said
I feel very free having college all paid for and being able to start a business or switch jobs without losing my health insurance.

@averagejoe1 said
Can’t have both.

Economic Freedom: One may own property, make choices of what to buy and sell, make profit, engage in any way they please. The ultimate bosses are the consumers. We have choice.
The socialist system FORBIDS the fundamental right to choose one's own career. There is only one economic authority, and it has the right to determine all matters of production.
In socialism, private property is abolished. Someone ask Zahlanzi if he would 'feel free' living under such restrictions. I would ask him, but he is easily upset with me.

Would the socialists have called Van Gogh a bad painter and sent him to work in a shoe factory (owned by the socialists)?

@mghrn55 said
Why not ?

@shavixmir said
Economic freedom is a very vague term.
It can mean free market freedom for companies, which often leads to poverty and no economic freedom for individuals.

Socialism tends to curb free market economic freedom, leading to individuals having more money and freedom to do what they want with that money.

The average European has a good healthcare package, 5 weeks paid vacation a year and works less than 40 hours a week.

Where’s the lack of freedom in that?

@zahlanzi said
This is again going to be a thread where we try to explain to the moron that economic freedom for the billionaires is not economic freedom for the 99% and he will again default to "no, but venezuela" and we will call him a moron again and time shall be wasted again.

@metal-brain said
Socialism is the transition from capitalism to communism.
Nobody has ever successfully made the transition to communism.

In other words, communism doesn't exist and has never existed. It is a goal that has never been reached.

@Metal-Brain
Wow, you are saying you are a communist but communism doesn't exist.
Ok.........