Solutions for intentional misinformation

@jimm619 said
https://www.politifact.com/article/2016/sep/01/fact-checking-clinton-foundation-controversy/

Did you look into what the Haitians thought of the Clinton Foundation’s “help?”

@wildgrass said
I'll not debate the science here, but l stand by my assertion that 'children will be hospitalized' is deliberate misinformation. People are decapitated by their own seat belts, but using that fact to say that "seatbelts kill people" is a deliberately misleading statement (i.e. you are intentionally trying to misinform people). I hope you can understand the distinction here. ...[text shortened]... on and nothing - new data, statistics, an army of scientists - will convince them to crawl out. Why?

A mixture of misanthropy and mental illness probably.
Wajoma is a good example of the former whilst MB is almost certainly an example of the latter.

@metal-brain said
"Dr. Robert Malone says vaccines are "not working"

Are you sure that is an accurate quote? Dr. Robert Malone is vaccinated. Are you aware of that?

Children "will be hospitalized" from the vaccine. People of all ages have been hospitalized from the gene vaccines. It isn't my fault you reject VAERS data that is reported by your own government.

It isn't my fault ...[text shortened]... parrot. It was never even your opinion. Someone else formed you opinion. You are not that original.

Millions of people are dead from covid, untold others have suffered long term debilitating conditions from long covid.
The evidence is undeniable that vaccines are safe by every sensible criteria and not taking them is unsafe.
What we are talking about is not both sides being as bad as each other and the truth being subjective blah blah blah
We are talking about idiots, misanthropes and bad state actors sowing division in other target states through useful idiots.

@metal-brain said
"Dr. Robert Malone says vaccines are "not working"

Are you sure that is an accurate quote? Dr. Robert Malone is vaccinated. Are you aware of that?

Children "will be hospitalized" from the vaccine. People of all ages have been hospitalized from the gene vaccines. It isn't my fault you reject VAERS data that is reported by your own government.

It isn't my fault ...[text shortened]... parrot. It was never even your opinion. Someone else formed you opinion. You are not that original.

Are you finally giving yourself a good talking to?
Your a bit late with this self awareness thing but congratulations anyway.

@wajoma said
My language was precise, it was you that 'kind of exactly' want to stretch a word in a 'kind of exactly' way so that you can then stretch the new word 'kind of exactly' to mean something 'kind of exactly' different entirely.

I didn't write the definition of misinformation. I was only using the word to explain what Robert Malone was saying about vaccine safety. You can't accept the definition of the word, so now here we are 20 posts later arguing semantics.

@kevcvs57 said
A mixture of misanthropy and mental illness probably.
Wajoma is a good example of the former whilst MB is almost certainly an example of the latter.

kev, the tag of 'misanthropy' is owned by control freaks and in particular it is represented by those on the left here at RHP, one doesn't have to go far to find sonhouse, jim619, shallowblue, wildcrass, shag doody for brains, gloating on the deaths of their fellow citizens, recently there was suzi bragging about being childless so that there are less morons in the world. That sums her view of people, including you.

I respect my fellow man, I respect him to know what's best for his own life, I believe he will help others when and how he can dependent on his own values. Gooberment welfare (a favourite left wing hobby horse) destroys noble and genuine benevolence, people give up on helping others 'that's the role of gooberment' they say, it says you can't be trusted, it says you're no good, it says you're helpless.

No kev, you ,and all your type, and your philosophy, and your anti-values define misanthropy, that's the poison you peddle.

Maybe it's too late for you, but I encourage you to look on your fellow man with greater respect and regard.

@wajoma said
I respect my fellow man, I respect him to know what's best for his own life, I believe he will help others when and how he can dependent on his own values.

Then you're an idiot.

I have seen too many people behave in ways that were actively damaging to themselves, and also actively damaging to others, to believe that there is anyone alive who doesn't need some restraint from society. I also know too many, far too many, people who would help someone else only if they thought they could get double their input back later on, and let the unfortunate starve.

I also know what happens if you loosen government regulations on big business. I know what used to happen in the 1800s and early 1900s; I can see it happening again right now in the USA, China and India, in Mumbai sweatshops, Foxconn, and piss-in-bottle Amazon. Your ideals are turning the world back to what it was in The Jungle.

You don't respect your fellow man, you respect a pipe dream from the pages of Ayn Rand. But she was never honest, and never wrote a true, realistic human being. You should read more Orwell and Huxley, instead.

@shallow-blue said
Then you're an idiot.

I have seen too many people behave in ways that were actively damaging to themselves, and also actively damaging to others, to believe that there is anyone alive who doesn't need some restraint from society. I also know too many, far too many, people who would help someone else only if they thought they could get double their input back la ...[text shortened]... est, and never wrote a true, realistic human being. You should read more Orwell and Huxley, instead.

You have me convinced. Men cannot be trusted to run their own lives, they need other men to make those decisions for them.

Um, hang on, men can't be trusted so they need other men? wtf? something screwy about shallow blues theory here.

@wajoma said
kev, the tag of 'misanthropy' is owned by control freaks and in particular it is represented by those on the left here at RHP, one doesn't have to go far to find sonhouse, jim619, shallowblue, wildcrass, shag doody for brains, gloating on the deaths of their fellow citizens, recently there was suzi bragging about being childless so that there are less morons in the world. Tha ...[text shortened]... 's too late for you, but I encourage you to look on your fellow man with greater respect and regard.

Your problem Wajoma is that you respect your fellow man to a fault.
What you do not seem to get is that society and it’s inbuilt controls ARE our natural state of existence. The more prolific we become and the bigger our societies get the more we will be required to regulate our actions or non actions for the good of the group.
Good government has the lightest touch it can get away with but in the case of covid or any other major threat to public health governments must act in the interests of the majority not the minority or the individual.
Let’s face it your animosity toward goobermint would result in untold misery for untold numbers of people if you could bend society to your will.
It’s almost a given that libertarian philosophy and anarchy are matters of degree and I think your apparent misanthropy is based on your inability or unwillingness to accept that communal responsibility and individual freedom are a balancing act rather than mutually exclusive dogmas.

@wajoma said
You have me convinced. Men cannot be trusted to run their own lives, they need other men to make those decisions for them.

Um, hang on, men can't be trusted so they need other men? wtf? something screwy about shallow blues theory here.

Yeah... you keep reading your own personality into my words. That'll really work.

...nope. You're still dishonest.

@wildgrass said
There's plenty of evidence all over this forum. Once something is said by someone and you agree with that statement then there's no way anyone is changing your mind...

Dr. Robert Malone says vaccines are "not working" and children "will be hospitalized" from the vaccine. Metal Brain hears it and believes it whole cloth, even though I could find hundreds of research artic ...[text shortened]... ar it, agree with it, and never change their minds.

What's the solution here? Facts don't matter.

give some dollars to some independent journalist's patreon who looks like he is trying so he doesn't starve

@pb1022 said
The charity navigator ratings don’t address the question I raised, and the rating for the Clinton foundation was bottom of the barrel until they had it changed.

That “charitable foundation” literallly took in hundreds of millions of dollars (if not a billion.)

Tell me the projects and initiatives funded by all that money.

Because some friends of the Clintons are rich?

That is your measuring stick? Really?

No one gives to the Trump Foundation because they don't like funding family fascists.

@kevcvs57 said
Your problem Wajoma is that you respect your fellow man to a fault.
What you do not seem to get is that society and it’s inbuilt controls ARE our natural state of existence. The more prolific we become and the bigger our societies get the more we will be required to regulate our actions or non actions for the good of the group.
Good government has the lightest touch it ca ...[text shortened]... nal responsibility and individual freedom are a balancing act rather than mutually exclusive dogmas.

Exactly.

@wajoma said
You have me convinced. Men cannot be trusted to run their own lives, they need other men to make those decisions for them.

Um, hang on, men can't be trusted so they need other men? wtf? something screwy about shallow blues theory here.

So the right is screwy. We knew that.

And stupid. We knew that too.

@wajoma said
kev, the tag of 'misanthropy' is owned by control freaks and in particular it is represented by those on the left here at RHP, one doesn't have to go far to find sonhouse, jim619, shallowblue, wildcrass, shag doody for brains, gloating on the deaths of their fellow citizens, recently there was suzi bragging about being childless so that there are less morons in the world. Tha ...[text shortened]... 's too late for you, but I encourage you to look on your fellow man with greater respect and regard.

I think the stick is too far up your ass now.

Man, just take it out and stop bitching that the world is too real for you.

So Reagan's lies are still harming the real world.

You wonder why we think you're just stupid.