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Spanish Minister Calls for Diplomatic Relations with Israel to be Severed

Spanish Minister Calls for Diplomatic Relations with Israel to be Severed

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@eintaluj said
Spain's Minister of Social Rights, Ione Belarra, has formally asked the EU to:

1) Suspend diplomatic relations with Israel.
2) Impose economic sanctions against Israel.
3) Impose an arms embargo on Israel.
4) To insist on an arrest warrant for Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu and his military cabinet before the International Criminal Court.

She accuses Israel of occ ...[text shortened]... has continued for three weeks already.

https://x.com/ionebelarra/status/1717190578495017300?s=20
Though the Inquisition has been suspended for almost 200 years, a culture of Jew-baiting dies hard.

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@sh76 said
How do you defend yourself proportionally? If there's a burglar in my house trying to kill my family, do I have to wait until he takes out my wife or my kid before killing him so we can maintain proportionality?

Self-defense means you neutralize the attacker so that he can't continue the attack. "Proportional" self-defense is an oxymoron.

You (and much of the world) are ho ...[text shortened]... ndard that you'd never tolerate when it came to the safety and security of yourself or your country.
But Israel is not neutralizing the attacker. It kills civilians.

The notion of Israel taking out Hamas when they have a web of tunnels is absurd on it's face. Israel knows that is impossible. That is because that is not the real goal. The real goal is to get Gazans to leave so they can never come back.

This is all about Israel stealing more land. Once Gazans leave the Gaza strip they can never come back and they know it. Look up "Nakba". Look up Norman Finkelstein. He is Jewish so listen to him with an open mind.

https://www.commondreams.org/news/ethnic-cleansing-gaza

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@sh76 said
How do you defend yourself proportionally? If there's a burglar in my house trying to kill my family, do I have to wait until he takes out my wife or my kid before killing him so we can maintain proportionality?

Self-defense means you neutralize the attacker so that he can't continue the attack. "Proportional" self-defense is an oxymoron.

You (and much of the world) are ho ...[text shortened]... ndard that you'd never tolerate when it came to the safety and security of yourself or your country.
Again, some demagoguery.
The defenders of Israel's war crimes are producing such nonsense uninterruptedly.

Israel is not killing those "terrorists" who attacked Israel on 07 October 2023.
Instead, it murders thousands and thousands of unarmed civilians in the Gaza Strip.

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@sh76 said
Though the Inquisition has been suspended for almost 200 years, a culture of Jew-baiting dies hard.
I do not discuss the Jews.
I even do not discuss the state of Israel.

All the discussion is about the current administration of Israel and its carpet bombing of the civilians in the sieged and blocked small, densely populated Gaza Strip.

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@eintaluj said
Again, some demagoguery.
The defenders of Israel's war crimes are producing such nonsense uninterruptedly.

Israel is not killing those "terrorists" who attacked Israel on 07 October 2023.
Instead, it murders thousands and thousands of unarmed civilians in the Gaza Strip.
Hamas murdered 1400 Jewish civilians on Oct 7th. They are paying for their sins. You mean you expected the Jewish state to surrender to these terrorists scumbags?

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@eintaluj said
I do not discuss the Jews.
I even do not discuss the state of Israel.

All the discussion is about the current administration of Israel and its carpet bombing of the civilians in the sieged and blocked small, densely populated Gaza Strip.
The Stare of Israel is justifiably carpet bombing the Gaza strip which is a cesspool of terrorist criminals. Next is a ground attack with tanks. That place needs a makeover under new management, a new curriculum instead of teaching those poor kids "death to Jews". Disgusting people.

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@eintaluj said
I do not discuss the Jews.
I even do not discuss the state of Israel.

All the discussion is about the current administration of Israel and its carpet bombing of the civilians in the sieged and blocked small, densely populated Gaza Strip.
Look around the world. Thousands of violent anti-Jewish incidents are happening daily. In Russia, a lynch mob stormed an airport because they heard a Jewish flight was landing and the plane had to be diverted.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/flight-from-israel-to-russias-dagestan-diverts-as-pro-palestinian-mob-storms-terminal/

There probably isn't an obvious Jew in a major city the world who hasn't been slurred by terrorist wannabe thugs. Personally, I was attacked on Sunday evening in downtown Philadelphia by thugs waiving terrorist symbols (thankfully, I was close enough to the hotel entrance to escape). I stopped wearing my yarmulka for the rest of my trip.

What does all of this have to do with you?

Because your hysterical exaggeration and bigoted double standard to which you would never hold another terrorist victim give the terrorist thug wannabes cover.

You may or may not be a Jew-hater yourself, but hysterical anti-Israel condemnations cause real life violence.

Julius Streicher also probably never fired a gun or personally beat anyone up.

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@rajk999 said
The Stare of Israel is justifiably carpet bombing the Gaza strip which is a cesspool of terrorist criminals. Next is a ground attack with tanks. That place needs a makeover under new management, a new curriculum instead of teaching those poor kids "death to Jews". Disgusting people.
Israel isn't carpet bombing anything. It's engaging in classic military strategic bombing of military targets.

That Hamas makes sure to intentionally put its military targets in the middle of civillian centers is Hamas' fault.

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No country in history would agree to a ceasefire after that kind of invasion unless it was forced on them by military realities.

The anti-Israel crowd who are not simply Jew haters probably just think "if you place nice, you'll have our sympathy and that will somehow magically help you."

But they just don't get it. Hamas wants to kill us. Every last one of us. They want me dead and they want my whole family dead. They don't give a damn that I live in the United States. I'm Jewish. And so they want me dead. And if they get their hands on me, they'll butcher me and my family, right down to my one year old baby. They're Nazis. Plain and simple.

But here's the thing.

We're not doing it again. We're not hunkering down and hoping that the Nazis are a passing storm. This time, when they come for us, we're either going to kick their a**** or die trying. If anyone can't process that one geopolitical fact, they won't be able to process the situation.

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@sh76 said
Look around the world. Thousands of violent anti-Jewish incidents are happening daily. In Russia, a lynch mob stormed an airport because they heard a Jewish flight was landing and the plane had to be diverted.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/flight-from-israel-to-russias-dagestan-diverts-as-pro-palestinian-mob-storms-terminal/

There probably isn't an obvious J ...[text shortened]... al life violence.

Julius Streicher also probably never fired a gun or personally beat anyone up.
"Look around the world. Thousands of violent anti-Jewish incidents are happening daily. In Russia, a lynch mob stormed an airport because they heard a Jewish flight was landing and the plane had to be diverted."

I already told you that I do not discuss the Jews.
I am criticizing Israel's present genocide in the Gaza Strip.

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@sh76 said
Israel isn't carpet bombing anything. It's engaging in classic military strategic bombing of military targets.

That Hamas makes sure to intentionally put its military targets in the middle of civillian centers is Hamas' fault.
Im aware of that. Im just provoking this Eintaluj guy.

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@eintaluj said
"Look around the world. Thousands of violent anti-Jewish incidents are happening daily. In Russia, a lynch mob stormed an airport because they heard a Jewish flight was landing and the plane had to be diverted."

I already told you that I do not discuss the Jews.
I am criticizing Israel's present genocide in the Gaza Strip.
I dont think you have the definition of 'genocide' clear in your head. Google it.

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I see that there are several extremists involved in the discussion here, extremists who are trying to justify Israel's war crimes. Their style of argumentation is very primitive, among other things.

They are slandering, distorting the arguments of their opponents, systematically changing the context, etc.

One of the disputants - Rajk999 - is very explicitly expressing terrorist views.

It is impossible to continue the discussion as Red Hot Pawn does not remove such informational terrorists from the arena.

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@sh76 said
Though the Inquisition has been suspended for almost 200 years, a culture of Jew-baiting dies hard.
There's just as much a culture of Crusading and Muslim slaying in Spain's past

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@eintaluj said
I see that there are several extremists involved in the discussion here, extremists who are trying to justify Israel's war crimes. Their style of argumentation is very primitive, among other things.

They are slandering, distorting the arguments of their opponents, systematically changing the context, etc.

One of the disputants - Rajk999 - is very explicitly expressing ...[text shortened]... ontinue the discussion as Red Hot Pawn does not remove such informational terrorists from the arena.
Did you not say that the Jews lied about the terrorist attack of Oct 7th, and that it did not happen at all? Where is the proof of that? If there is none then you are by far the most dangerous person on this forum.

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