@vivify saidDon’t know full history of Hunter, hopefully the tapes will surface, such as the phone call where he said my dad is sitting here and you will be real sorry if you don’t pay us the money. Extortion of sorts? Could be.
Who did Hunter extort?
I think extortion ‘could be’ if we look into Joe telling Ukraine that he would withhold the billion dollars if they would not fire the ukfaine prosecutor.
Why do you fso obviously try to protect the Biden family with all that is out there? Are you thinking that all that is out there is all fake, like Hillary‘s hoax, or that it is a conspiracy?
Really? Nothing irregular ? Hmmmm
13 Aug 23
@averagejoe1 saidHow many times does that fake story have to be debunked? The truth, which has been known for years:
Don’t know full history of Hunter, hopefully the tapes will surface, such as the phone call where he said my dad is sitting here and you will be real sorry if you don’t pay us the money. Extortion of sorts? Could be.
I think extortion ‘could be’ if we look into Joe telling Ukraine that he would withhold the billion dollars if they would not fire the ukfaine prosecut ...[text shortened]... s all fake, like Hillary‘s hoax, or that it is a conspiracy?
Really? Nothing irregular ? Hmmmm
"This would all be a small footnote in history except that by 2016, officials throughout the Obama administration and in Western Europe had come to a consensus that Ukraine’s prosecutor general, Viktor Shokin, wasn’t doing enough to crack down on corruption. Biden, as he later colorfully recounted, delivered the message that the West wanted Shokin gone or else loan guarantees would be held up, and Shokin was, in turn, fired.
There was nothing remotely controversial about this at the time. No congressional Republicans complained about it, and the European Union hailed the decision to fire Shokin. The reason there is video footage of Biden touting his personal role in this is it was considered a foreign policy triumph that Biden wanted to claim credit for, not anything sordid or embarrassing.
But Shokin, of course, didn’t want to go down on the theory that he was corrupt or incompetent. So he started offering another theory: he was fired for going after Burisma by Joe Biden operating on behalf of Hunter Biden.
The question of whether Shokin was actually investigating Burisma at all is a matter of dispute (the relevant Ukrainian players have told inconsistent stories), but this is clearly not the reason he was fired. The desire to push him out was fully bipartisan in the United States and reflected a consensus across European governments, not anything idiosyncratic to Biden."
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/10/1/20891510/hunter-biden-burisma-ukraine-shokin
13 Aug 23
@averagejoe1 saidOf course not. Already off to a bad start.
Don’t know full history of Hunter
I think extortion ‘could be’ if we look into Joe telling Ukraine that he would withhold the billion dollars if they would not fire the ukfaine prosecutor.
Extortion is a threat to force someone to *give* money. Not threatening to withhold it. You don't know the meaning of words of you use.
Why do you fso obviously try to protect the Biden family with all that is out there? Are you thinking that all that is out there is all fake, like Hillary‘s hoax
1) Countering your falsehoods is not protecting Biden. You thought "extortion" had the exact opposite meaning; you want me to let idiocy like this slide?
2) You were complaining about "whataboutism" yet deflect to Hillary.
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@vivify saidyour ignorance astoundsš³
Of course not. Already off to a bad start.
I think extortion ‘could be’ if we look into Joe telling Ukraine that he would withhold the billion dollars if they would not fire the ukfaine prosecutor.
Extortion is a threat to force someone to *give* money. Not threatening to withhold it. You don't know the meaning of words of you use.
[quote]Why do you f ...[text shortened]... let idiocy like this slide?
2) You were complaining about "whataboutism" yet deflect to Hillary.
“take or withhold action as an official, ”
https://study.com/learn/lesson/extortion-types-examples.html#:~:text=Common%20types%20of%20extortion%20include,of%20an%20act%20of%20extortion.
and yes, you should have let it slide…you have thoroughly made a fool of yourself
@mott-the-hoople saidYawn.
your ignorance astoundsš³
“take or withhold action as an official, ”
https://study.com/learn/lesson/extortion-types-examples.html#:~:text=Common%20types%20of%20extortion%20include,of%20an%20act%20of%20extortion.
and yes, you should have let it slide…you have thoroughly made a fool of yourself
From your link:
extortion is the act of trying to get money, goods, property, or anything of value from another person by threatening or using violence, fear, humiliation, or any other unlawful threat.
Biden's threat was not unlawful nor was there personak gain from it:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/10/21/fact-check-joe-biden-leveraged-ukraine-aid-oust-corrupt-prosecutor/5991434002/
a recently concluded investigation by Senate Republicans that found no wrongdoing by the Bidens
Cherryāpicking is embarrassing when you get caught, ain't it?
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13 Aug 23
@vivify saidyou tell me, you are doing it right now with the link I posted.
Yawn.
From your link:
extortion is the act of trying to get money, goods, property, or anything of value from another person by threatening or using violence, fear, humiliation, or any other unlawful threat.
Biden's threat was not unlawful nor was there personak gain from it:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/10/21/fact ...[text shortened]... no wrongdoing[/u] by the Bidens[/b]
Cherryāpicking is embarrassing when you get caught, ain't it?
And I might add, looking like a fool doing so
14 Aug 23
@mott-the-hoople saidA Republican-lead investigation found no wrongdoing by Biden.
you tell me, you are doing it right now with the link I posted.
And I might add, looking like a fool doing so
You lose.
14 Aug 23
@vivify saidYou say Biden would receive no personal gain from calling of the prosecution of Barisma.
Yawn.
From your link:
extortion is the act of trying to get money, goods, property, or anything of value from another person by threatening or using violence, fear, humiliation, or any other unlawful threat.
Biden's threat was not unlawful nor was there personak gain from it:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/10/21/fact ...[text shortened]... no wrongdoing[/u] by the Bidens[/b]
Cherryāpicking is embarrassing when you get caught, ain't it?
You said that above, you just say that between your turns at frisbee........without thinking.
Absolutely unbelievable.
Give it up.
14 Aug 23
@averagejoe1 saidA Republican-lead investigation found no wrongdoing by Biden.
You say Biden would receive no personal gain from calling of the prosecution of Barisma.
You said that above, you just say that between your turns at frisbee........without thinking.
Absolutely unbelievable.
Give it up.
You lose.
@mott-the-hoople saidThe topic was about the Ukrainian lawyer. Goalpost switch after your ass whooping?
it is not over yet dumbass
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4150478-florida-republican-rep-files-articles-of-impeachment-against-biden/
Love it.
@Mott-The-Hoople
Funny you didn't say that when Barr was Trump's pet dog and asking how high when Trump said jump.
It is only now that Barr has flipped, NOW he is the enemy.
You are as transparent as an inch of clean water.
14 Aug 23
@no1marauder saidWho appoints who doesn't matter nearly as much as what they do that does.
No, you really haven't.
Weiss, is of course, a Trump appointee. Moreover, DOJ was investigating the case for several years under a Republican administration with a partisan Republican AG. Right wing complaints about any supposed bias in Hunter Biden's favor should be greeted with incredulity by the non-gullible.
14 Aug 23
@no1marauder saidWhen Joe bragged about getting a prosecutor fired, or he would withhold US aid doesn't sound like a crime to you? His son was on the board of the company, with zero experience making millions that were under investigation this is up and up in your world?
These stories are all over the "major news media". Granted, they don't play them for 24 hours a day like Fox News or have 90% of their articles focused on them like right wing print media but there's been little news that has been noteworthy; mostly it's simply recycled allegations that have been public for months or years.
We're waiting for substantial evidence suppor ...[text shortened]... aims that is irrelevant.
Hard to take the Comers and Jordans seriously when they play such games.