State Department said what ISIS needs are jobs

Originally posted by no1marauder
I realize the point is a little too subtle for right wingers to grasp, but it is certainly true that high levels of youth unemployment among males in the Middle East increases the ability of violent Islamist groups to recruit from that demographic: The highest rates of youth unemployment are found in the Middle East and North Africa, at roughly 24Â perce ...[text shortened]...
So yeah, getting more young Middle Eastern males jobs would probably reduce terrorist activity.

More work place violence.

Originally posted by no1marauder
So all Christians have to be totally non-violent because of Jesus' teachings now.

Is that your claim?

Is that your position? You oppose any violence even in self-defense?

BS.

The teachings reflect a greater truth which is that we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against spiritual wickedness that control people.

Also, God's kingdom is not of this world, therefore, he gives no mandate to conquer for an earthly kingdom.

This is a far cry from Mo who joined religion and politics into one.


All I can tell you is that if you can't surmise the superiority of the sole representative to Christianity to that of Islam, then talking to you is fruitless.

Originally posted by finnegan
As for his new found concern about human rights, will Obama apply that insight to his extensive use of drone warfare, or to the long deferred closure of Guantanamo Bay? Seems not. Will he be recommending a new concern for human rights to Netenyahu or the Israeli Defence Force or instead continuing the uncritical provision of US money and weapons? ...[text shor ...[text shortened]... fat assed[/b]American voters who want to be lulled back to political sleep after a bad dream.

If one wishes to find "Fat Asses" one doesn't need to look far from doorstep. 😀 😀

"NEARLY HALF OF IRISH ARE OVERWEIGHT, SAYS SURVEY
Some 60% of men and 40% of women weigh in with a body mass index of more than 25"
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/aug/23/ireland-overweight-diet-health
---------------------------------------------------

THE SHAPE WE'RE IN: 10 FACTS ABOUT IRISH OBESITY
"As a nation, we're getting fatter to the point of a crisis. It's especially prevalent among older people, according to a new report."
http://www.independent.ie/life/health-wellbeing/healthy-eating/the-shape-were-in-10-facts-about-irish-obesity-30451586.html

Originally posted by Quarl
If one wishes to find "Fat Asses" one doesn't need to look far from doorstep. 😀 😀

"NEARLY HALF OF IRISH ARE OVERWEIGHT, SAYS SURVEY
Some 60% of men and 40% of women weigh in with a body mass index of more than 25"
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/aug/23/ireland-overweight-diet-health
---------------------------------------------------

TH ...[text shortened]... health-wellbeing/healthy-eating/the-shape-were-in-10-facts-about-irish-obesity-30451586.html[/i]

I am sure that is right though the statistics need clarifying some time. This is a problem across the developed world, and most of all a problem in the USA, whose food industry demonstrably lies behind the problem and has exported it widely in recent decades.

This article suggest the USA is the fattest country in the world:
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/feb/19/new-zealand-battles-obesity-epidemic-as-third-fattest-country-in-the-world

The small island nation [ ie New Zealand ] is now in the top three fattest countries behind the US and Mexico, where 36.5% and 32% respectively of the population are obese. New Zealand’s rate is just below 29%.

This link suggests the USA is not the worst in the World, though it is high on the top ten, but then again Ireland fails to make the top ten at all and it blames the USA for the worst obesity epidemic in the world - in Kuwait.
http://www.therichest.com/rich-list/poorest-list/the-10-fattest-countries-in-2014/

We all suffer because of the total lack of ethics and lack of effective regulation in the food industry.

http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2013/aug/07/fat-profits-food-industry-obesity

http://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/feb/18/children-obesity-who-marketing-unhealthy-food

Originally posted by whodey
The teachings reflect a greater truth which is that we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against spiritual wickedness that control people.

Also, God's kingdom is not of this world, therefore, he gives no mandate to conquer for an earthly kingdom.

This is a far cry from Mo who joined religion and politics into one.


All I can tell you is th ...[text shortened]... y of the sole representative to Christianity to that of Islam, then talking to you is fruitless.

Do you ever actually answer a question? Stop dodging; are Christians impelled by the teachings of Jesus to be nonviolent?

And BTW let me remind you of some doctrine in your superstition; Jesus is not a prophet or a man like Mohammed - he is part of a triune God who is eternal and possesses the 4 Os. As such, every thing that God ordered in the OT - every massacre, every enslavement, every atrocity - is directly attributable to Jesus. It's stunning ignorance and/or self-delusion to talk about there being "no mandate to conquer for an earthly kingdom" in Christianity when most of the OT is concerned with God's people doing EXACTLY that at His command. And that command came from the eternal divinity that was/is Jesus as well.

So the divine Jesus as part of the Holy Trinity is responsible for far more slaughter than Mohammed ever accomplished. You, naturally, ignored Revelation as well where it is prophesied that Jesus will slaughter every single one of the army of the Beast and the False Prophet in combat, not by the flowing eloquence of his divine Word.

IF you want to believe that Jesus was a man like the Muslims do, then perhaps you can argue that he was morally superior to Mohammed. But as an integral component of OT Monster God in Christian theology, he hardly deserves that status.

Originally posted by no1marauder
Do you ever actually answer a question? Stop dodging; are Christians impelled by the teachings of Jesus to be nonviolent?

And BTW let me remind you of some doctrine in your superstition; Jesus is not a prophet or a man like Mohammed - he is part of a triune God who is eternal and possesses the 4 Os. As such, every thing that God ordered in the OT - ev ...[text shortened]... s an integral component of OT Monster God in Christian theology, he hardly deserves that status.

NO. Of course not.

Originally posted by whodey
The teachings reflect a greater truth which is that we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against spiritual wickedness that control people.

Also, God's kingdom is not of this world, therefore, he gives no mandate to conquer for an earthly kingdom.

This is a far cry from Mo who joined religion and politics into one.


All I can tell you is th ...[text shortened]... y of the sole representative to Christianity to that of Islam, then talking to you is fruitless.

What the teachings reflect is debatable.

Jesus did not preach in favour of war, although he will have lived alongside the advocates of Jewish rebellion. In fact, rebellion won out among the Jews at least of Palestine - if not the Jews in other parts of the Roman empire - and led to intense violence and eventual defeat at the hands of the Romans, accompanied by loyal Jews like Josephus. It has never been difficult to find grounds for violence in the Old Testament.

Paul worked hard to persuade the Roman authorities that Christians would not be like the violent and disloyal Jews. But he did not ditch the Old Testament. He did not really convince the authorities either.

It was three centuries later that Christians found in Constantine an emperor willing to accommodate them and give them the benefits of official recognition - including tax benefits and a role in secular administration, but also of course endorsement of the violently oppressive and plutocratic Empire and its armies. Constantine rapidly hit the reality that there were a whole zoology of different religious groups that wanted to claim the benefits of this official toleration and when he convened the first Council of Nicea, he forced the leading "Christians" to pin down and specify the defining beliefs of that faith, which in turn of course defined many alternative views as heretical. All subsequent Christians are by definition associated with that official and definitive religion but even so, it has splintered into many variants under that umbrella. From the outset, the persecution of heretics and the obsessive work to define correct belief has been integrally connected with material benefits. There was no truthful religious need to get so violent over obscure doctrinal disputes but every political reason.

The Christian religion has never been non political. Jesus might have appeared to be, but being non political was a political position in Palestine at that time - it entailed negation of the Jewish rebels and acceptance of the Roman empire's jurisdiction - and in any event, Jesus was and remained a Jew and never invented a rival religion - the Jewish religion of that time was completely wrapped up in violent politics as it is today and Christianity has always been so ever since its invention by Paul. The non violent, apolitical strands in each faith have always been just one strand of an ongoing political debate and not always - or even usually - representative. Naturally, they claim to be the ones who are right - that is how religious debate has always been conducted. "I am always right and virtuous. You are always wrong and damned. God agrees with ME. "

Maybe like the mediaeval Church authorities, you just prefer to hand over the violent outcome of your deliberations to the secular authorities and so wash your hands.

Originally posted by finnegan
I am sure that is right though the statistics need clarifying some time. This is a problem across the developed world, and most of all a problem in the USA, whose food industry demonstrably lies behind the problem and has exported it widely in recent decades.

This article suggest the USA is the fattest country in the world:
http://www.theguardian.com/wo ...[text shortened]...

http://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/feb/18/children-obesity-who-marketing-unhealthy-food

Not to be niggly about the matter, but when a survey reports: "Nearly half of Irish are overweight, says survey" and the survey you referenced reports “US and Mexico, where 36.5% and 32% respectively.” It is obvious the Irish leads the U.S. in 'fat asses' by roughly 14%. This is why your original post caught my interest. An Irishman calling those of another country "Fat Asses." 🙁

The point being the old saw regarding those who live in glass houses throwing stones. 😛

Originally posted by whodey
http://www.breitbart.com/video/2015/02/16/harf-we-cant-kill-our-way-out-of-war-against-isis/

A spokesperson for the US State Department recently came out and said that the solution for groups like ISIS are jobs. If they all had jobs and health care and a good retirement system, then it would diffuse the desire to be a terrorist.

My only question is, wh ...[text shortened]... live, place on a cross etc., etc., don't panic. Stay calm and just ask them if they need a job.

I would give them a job defusing bombs without any training