Takeaway by me, sorry

@AverageJoe1 said
You misrepresent again, people like Sueann read this stuff, you know. From the most recent in reverse, which is good to know.
You are saying that 'under Trump' jobs were lost. Implying he caused it. No, Covid caused it. Please re-post..."Because of the pandemic....."
If you want to point fingers, point at Biden and tell us he did not cause the Biden Border Crisis.

Gee, I thought you didn't want to talk about COVID's effect on the economy - you wanted to ignore it as a cause of the world wide inflation that it made inevitable.

But sure an economic downturn was a foregone conclusion because of the pandemic though Trump and Republican governors' mismanagement of it made it's effects worse.

And it was also inevitable that border crossings would fall during the pandemic and then surge after it. No public policy would have significantly altered that reality.

And no, there is no border "crisis".nor is there an "open border" as I have explained to you numerous times. Nor is there any reason to commit economic suicide by "closing the border" or building a ridiculous wall or taking any of the other extreme measures white nationalist bigots like yourself are pushing.

@no1marauder said
Gee, I thought you didn't want to talk about COVID's effect on the economy - you wanted to ignore it as a cause of the world wide inflation that it made inevitable.

But sure an economic downturn was a foregone conclusion because of the pandemic though Trump and Republican governors' mismanagement of it made it's effects worse.

And it was also inevitable that border ...[text shortened]... wall or taking any of the other extreme measures white nationalist bigots like yourself are pushing.

I wanted to ignore that Covid caused inflation, etc? How's that? Could not ignore that if I wanted to . What in the hell, you are writing like Sonhouse.

Then you say that Donald 'Operation Warp Speed 9 months" Trump made it worse. Whatever you say, Sonhouse.


Marauder says there is no Border crisis. Why? Ask yourselves what he has up his sleeve to say such a thing. To imply that millions of people think that there IS a crisis. Someone banter with him about that , i am busy. Silly man, indeed.

NoBorderCrisis

@AverageJoe1 said
I wanted to ignore that Covid caused inflation, etc? How's that? Could not ignore that if I wanted to . What in the hell, you are writing like Sonhouse.

Then you say that Donald 'Operation Warp Speed 9 months" Trump made it worse. Whatever you say, Sonhouse.


Marauder says there is no Border crisis. Why? Ask yourselves what he has up his sleeve to say such a ...[text shortened]... crisis. Someone banter with him about that , i am busy. Silly man, indeed.

NoBorderCrisis

Hate to break it to you, but it was German scientists using not one penny from Operation Warp Speed for research and development who created the vaccine.

True, the US government agreed to buy doses of the vaccine but only if Pfizer was successful in developing it and then the vaccine was approved by the FDA:

"While other pharmaceutical companies did take federal funds to develop a vaccine, Pfizer declined to do so, the only one of the major prospective developers to go it alone.

At the same time, on July 22, Pfizer agreed to a $1.95 billion deal with the Trump administration “for large-scale production and nationwide delivery of 100 million doses of a COVID-19 vaccine in the United States following the vaccine’s successful manufacture and approval.”"

https://www.yahoo.com/news/so-is-pfizer-part-of-operation-warp-speed-or-not-well-its-a-little-complicated-175429888.html

@AverageJoe1 said
2.5%
The current annual inflation rate is 2.5%, the lowest since February 2021. Prices are still 21.2% more expensive since the pandemic-induced recession began in February 2020, with only about 6% of the nearly 400 items the Bureau of Labor Statistics tracks cheaper today.23 hours ago


I get an 'assist' for helping you round out your post, the part that 'Prices Are Still 21.2% more expensive...."
You give me a headache

Talk to your CEO buddies who are keeping prices high because that's what your Orange Jesus wants.

@AverageJoe1 said
But there are Several issues. How about the ones that 'we don't know who they are", are they vaccinated, were we ready for them, (the hospitals, etc), they will cause dumb-down of grade school curriculum, there are terrorists among them......., see how mamy more issues you can add. Somebody told me that htey are taking over hotels and apartment buildings, but,,,,yeah, ...[text shortened]... little feller? Are they more likely to knife a person on the street than are our fellow citizens?

The "dumb-down of grade school curriculum" is caused by charter schools, the wet dream of conservatives.

@AverageJoe1 said
No inflation under Trump vs highest in history
Moderators had only ONE question on the economy......................which is the number one concern of our country. Number One! No question. Inflation has destroyed the American Dream, our people are suffering.

He asked if she favored abortion in 7 or 8 or 9th month...She Would Not Answer. Actually, she never answered ...[text shortened]... ld not answer/......

I guess I will not answer a few of your questions, as you never answer mine.

Not content with lying about things in the US, Trump lied about the friendly Germans:

Trump (at the debate): "You believe in things like ‘We’re not going to frack, we’re not going to take fossil fuel.’ ... Germany tried that, and within one year, they were back to building normal energy plants."

The Germans called BS. From their Foreign Ministry:

"Like it or not: Germany’s energy system is fully operational, with more than 50% renewables. And we are shutting down – not building – coal & nuclear plants. Coal will be off the grid by 2038 at the latest. "

https://x.com/GermanyDiplo/status/[WORD TOO LONG].com%2Ftrump-has-tanked-in-the-presidential-betting-odds%2F%3Futm_source%3Drss_rss-msn.xml

EDIT: Goddammit, it's on the German Foreign Office site on X, posted on September 11. https://x.com/GermanyDiplo

@no1marauder said
Not content with lying about things in the US, Trump lied about the friendly Germans:

Trump (at the debate): "You believe in things like ‘We’re not going to frack, we’re not going to take fossil fuel.’ ... Germany tried that, and within one year, they were back to building normal energy plants."

The Germans called BS. From their Foreign Ministry:

"Like it ...[text shortened]... mit, it's on the German Foreign Office site on X, posted on September 11. https://x.com/GermanyDiplo

Just trying to keep up with your comments. Did you see where your lieutenants are saying that taxpayers shoulder the cost of bankruptcies.
And now you point out 'trump lies' , with no reference to those of K??

Here are 5 of them that I noticed.
She said he wants to cut Social Security at NC rally
She said he has something to do with 2025
She DID call for a mandatory gun buy back program
Her 'Bloodbath' claim was something he said about auto industry
Trump CONDEMNED hate in Charlottesville, she is a liar
She said no one is having late abortions, of course they are.

Question: Did Kamal lie at the debate? Give me a good ole' SHuse not-answer.

@Suzianne said
The "dumb-down of grade school curriculum" is caused by charter schools, the wet dream of conservatives.

I dont know what you mean, but you peak my interest....you seem to have a problem with the existence of Charter Schools??? Can you explain??

@no1marauder said
Hate to break it to you, but it was German scientists using not one penny from Operation Warp Speed for research and development who created the vaccine.

True, the US government agreed to buy doses of the vaccine but only if Pfizer was successful in developing it and then the vaccine was approved by the FDA:

"While other pharmaceutical companies did take federal fu ...[text shortened]... m/news/so-is-pfizer-part-of-operation-warp-speed-or-not-well-its-a-little-complicated-175429888.html

Is this word salad made to deflect the fact of the 9-month process championed by Trump?
So you are unhappy with Trump's Warp Speed?

@AverageJoe1 said
Is this word salad made to deflect the fact of the 9-month process championed by Trump?
So you are unhappy with Trump's Warp Speed?

It's meant to give you the facts which you routinely ignore.

Operation Warp Speed did not result in the COVID vaccine being developed.

@AverageJoe1 said
Is this word salad made to deflect the fact of the 9-month process championed by Trump?
So you are unhappy with Trump's Warp Speed?

Most immigrants understand more English than you do.

@AverageJoe1 said
I dont know what you mean, but you peak my interest....you seem to have a problem with the existence of Charter Schools??? Can you explain??

Do you mean the privatization of the Dept. of Education?

@AverageJoe1 said
Just trying to keep up with your comments. Did you see where your lieutenants are saying that taxpayers shoulder the cost of bankruptcies.
And now you point out 'trump lies' , with no reference to those of K??

Here are 5 of them that I noticed.
She said he wants to cut Social Security at NC rally
She said he has something to do with 2025
She DID c ...[text shortened]... f course they are.

Question: Did Kamal lie at the debate? Give me a good ole' SHuse not-answer.

Aren't you embarrassed by how much you cover for Trump?

Four of those five are flat-out lies.

How do you feel about Trump ducking another debate?

And oh, yeah, who is 'Kamal'?

@Suzianne said
Do you mean the privatization of the Dept. of Education?

In my mind there should be no such dept, the states can handle the education of their children. Each state has such a department. So I do not understand your comment.
I do not think that they should be privatization of the department of education if that is what you’re asking.

@AverageJoe1 said
In my mind there should be no such dept, the states can handle the education of their children. Each state has such a department. So I do not understand your comment.
I do not think that they should be privatization of the department of education if that is what you’re asking.

Clearly they cannot.

Before the Legislature of the State of Arizona went all-in for charter schools, Arizona was in the first half of states for quality of education. Now they're trailing 48 other states.

Giving snowflake parents a supposed 'choice' of schools to send their children to gives their children a poor education. Giving private schools the tax money that should be going to public schools disenfranchises public schools. Private schools, being private, do not have to meet state standards as public schools do.

It is long past time to subsidize higher education so that we don't end up with a completely ignorant electorate. It's dumb enough now, it's past time to turn this around.