Tea Parties

Originally posted by generalissimo
you're joking right?

I used to think the media was biased because of liberal agenda. I used to also think the schools had a liberal agenda as well. That was before coming to the realization that they are controlled by the same elite that control the republicans. You have to admit there is little difference between the republicans and democrats. How can this be?

Originally posted by telerion
The media is controlled by the Federal Reserve!!!

what about you telerion? Arn't you a fiscally conservative democrat? We need to hear from people like you and, in fact, I know a few of them that attended the Tea Parties. Like I said, this tendency to double and triple the national deficit is coming from both parties. Don't you thnk there is an end game to this madness?

Originally posted by no1marauder
The people chose a President in November 2008 and overwhelmingly support his policies to fight the economic disaster he inherited.

Don't you mean the economic disaster that he is contributing too? As I recall, the publc chose "W" at one time as well. Just goes to show you how intelligent they all are, eh?. Hopefully, they will soon see through the two party charade and realize that both have been headed in the same direction now for some time and say enough is enough. It also is equally troubling to me that when people say "change" it is only focused on the President. If the truth be known, the real problem is the Congress. AFter all, as I said even Obama said that earmarks were a problem but apparently has no idea of how to correct the reckless spending that he recently approved.

Originally posted by joe beyser
I used to think the media was biased because of liberal agenda. I used to also think the schools had a liberal agenda as well. That was before coming to the realization that they are controlled by the same elite that control the republicans. You have to admit there is little difference between the republicans and democrats. How can this be?

Spot on!!
Both parites voted to go to Iraq, and we are still there!!
Both parties refuse to secure the border, and it is still compromised.
Both parties have spent us into the ground and continue to do so.
Both parties refuse to engage in a meaningful energy policy that would free us from foriegn oil and are still at the mercy of OPEC for generations to come.

And froim what I can gather from talking to people, all these issues are of a concern no matter which party they are apart. Perhaps it is time for another party to take the scene?

Originally posted by scherzo
Those people are so stupid. I think I have most American popular opinion behind me.

Well not all of us can be as intellegent as you scherzo.

Originally posted by Sleepyguy
Apparently quite a few of the people who attended these protests were first-time protesters, showing up in the middle of a work day, some having taken their kids out of school for the day to attend. For Joe-Blow-conservatives, who normally wouldn't even consider wasting time on some stupid protest, that is a true shift in behavior. If they are willing to really hope they continue to be insulted by liberals. It will only strengthen their resolve.

I agree with what you say. In addition, I would say that the only way to arouse the folks you are talking about was for the Republicans to be out of office. Sad but true.

Originally posted by whodey
Spot on!!
Both parites voted to go to Iraq, and we are still there!!
Both parties refuse to secure the border, and it is still compromised.
Both parties have spent us into the ground and continue to do so.
Both parties refuse to engage in a meaningful energy policy that would free us from foriegn oil and are still at the mercy of OPEC for generations to ...[text shortened]... n no matter which party they are apart. Perhaps it is time for another party to take the scene?

I think so. It might be difficult when people with Ron Paul bumper stickers are branded as possible terrorists by the govt.

Originally posted by whodey
what about you telerion? Arn't you a fiscally conservative democrat? We need to hear from people like you and, in fact, I know a few of them that attended the Tea Parties. Like I said, this tendency to double and triple the national deficit is coming from both parties. Don't you thnk there is an end game to this madness?

Thank you for the nice words.

Personally, I'm not at all concerned about the whole taxation issue behind these tea parties. I think that's just a typical rallying cry that some conservatives go back to when a Democrat is in office. I mean whose taxes exactly have gone up since Obama took office, right?

Of more concern to me is the ballooning deficit. While I'm a little skeptical of the impact of government spending on future output, nobody's certain one way or another as to how Obama's plan will work out. I'm hopeful that much of this spending will prove to be very helpful. A lot of people are hurting right now. If his plan works, then they'll be better off and I'll have some new data to study.

Originally posted by telerion
Thank you for the nice words.

Personally, I'm not at all concerned about the whole taxation issue behind these tea parties. I think that's just a typical rallying cry that some conservatives go back to when a Democrat is in office. I mean whose taxes exactly have gone up since Obama took office, right?

Of more concern to me is the ballooning deficit ow. If his plan works, then they'll be better off and I'll have some new data to study.

People just don't get it. These tea parties are not simply about taxes, rather, they are about government spending. Of course, if spending continues as it is and has taxation is not far behind. In fact, how could it not be the case? YOu pay now or you pay later. It seems to me that no one wants to raise our taxes to pay for what they want to pay for so they simply spend it until we reach a point where there is no other alternative but to raise taxes. Then at that point, who can blame them? It is akin to what happened with the credit crisis. The country was allowed to reach a point in which we had to either bail out these corporations or kiss our economic system and retirements goodbye. With a gun to your head, you are more likely to surrender your hard earned money.

Originally posted by joe beyser
I think so. It might be difficult when people with Ron Paul bumper stickers are branded as possible terrorists by the govt.

All we need is someone like him who has an incling of charisma and is a good communicator. You know, kinda like crazy Ross, only, someone who is not crazy as Perot.

Originally posted by whodey
People just don't get it. These tea parties are not simply about taxes, rather, they are about government spending. Of course, if spending continues as it is and has taxation is not far behind. In fact, how could it not be the case? YOu pay now or you pay later. It seems to me that no one wants to raise our taxes to pay for what they want to pay for so t ...[text shortened]... nts goodbye. With a gun to your head, you are more likely to surrender your hard earned money.

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Whodey the partisan shill blathers on again. I missed all this complaining about deficit spending when GWB was President. Now with the economy in severe recession, you and a bunch of other conservatives have become born agains ranting about the deficit. Never mind that reduction of government spending in a recession could quite possibly lead to a depression! Nor are these protesters insisting on reductions in the most unnecessary government spending i.e. the $534 billion earmarked for defense.

The present administration is trying to deal with the situation left them. Slashing non-military government spending is not an option in a recession (that's been explained to you countless times). I'd prefer cuts in defense spending and bigger tax increases on the wealthy (along with ending the preferential tax treatment of dividend and capital gain income) but try selling that to your Republican buddies who organized these protests. Your usual hysterical raving is noted, but all it amounts to is the Rush Limbaugh line. We've heard it but most people are willing to give this administration's economic policies a chance. That's what the people voted for.

Originally posted by telerion
Thank you for the nice words.

Personally, I'm not at all concerned about the whole taxation issue behind these tea parties. I think that's just a typical rallying cry that some conservatives go back to when a Democrat is in office. I mean whose taxes exactly have gone up since Obama took office, right?

Of more concern to me is the ballooning deficit ...[text shortened]... ow. If his plan works, then they'll be better off and I'll have some new data to study.

Given that the Fed has pretty much exhausted the monetary options, the only choices for the Congress were an expansionary fiscal policy or changing nothing and hoping the recession goes away. Which do you think they should have done?

Originally posted by telerion
Thank you for the nice words.

Personally, I'm not at all concerned about the whole taxation issue behind these tea parties. I think that's just a typical rallying cry that some conservatives go back to when a Democrat is in office. I mean whose taxes exactly have gone up since Obama took office, right?

Of more concern to me is the ballooning deficit ...[text shortened]... ow. If his plan works, then they'll be better off and I'll have some new data to study.

Well sleepy guy I saw a glimmer of light after reading telerions comment. Not a bright light yet mind you but something. I will have to learn a new language.

Originally posted by joe beyser
Well sleepy guy I saw a glimmer of light after reading telerions comment. Not a bright light yet mind you but something.

Congratulations. When you give up the conspiracy bs. maybe you will understand the world around you.

Originally posted by Sleepyguy
Congratulations. When you give up the conspiracy bs. maybe you will understand the world around you.

You got it!