the end of the world is nigh!

Originally posted by princeoforange
Look at the UK today. Do we have civil liberties? No. Do we have freedom of expression? No. Do we have an unbiased media?

This is all capitalism for you.
Like in the States. Or are you suggesting Georgie boy is a commie too?

Don't be silly.
Communism is all about civil liberties and freedom of expression.

"What about Joe then?"
Joe was a dictator and nothing about him was ever communist.

Originally posted by princeoforange
Look at the UK today. Do we have civil liberties? No. Do we have freedom of expression? No. Do we have an unbiased media? No, the BBC, funded by the state, is more leftist than ever. These are all traits of a communist country, and Tony and co. must take the blame, because it didn't use to be like this!

How does the UK not have civil liberties or freedom of expression? You talk about the place like it's North Korea. Compared to the rest of the world we're pretty damned cushy, if not among the most free, especially considering the country considers itself to be at war.
The BBC must be pretty damn unbiased seeing as people on both ends of the political spectrum constantly whine about it being biased towards the other end.

Originally posted by shavixmir
This is all capitalism for you.
Like in the States. Or are you suggesting Georgie boy is a commie too?

Don't be silly.
Communism is all about civil liberties and freedom of expression.

"What about Joe then?"
Joe was a dictator and nothing about him was ever communist.

Either you are trying to be funny and not quite making it (again) or you are being serious, in which case you need your head seen to. So, Stalin wasn't a communist, and presumeably you'd also say that Mao, Pol Pot, Kim Jung Il, Kim Il Sung, Castro, Allende, Chavez etc. etc ad infinitum (well almost) are not communists either simply because they are (or were) dictators? I suggest you come down off your high horse and just admit that communism has given rise to the worst and bloodiest dictatorships ever seen by mankind. Look at the worlds 6 communist countries today - China, North Korea, Vietnam, DRC, Cuba and Venezuela. Are they the paragons of the civil liberties and freedom of expression which you say communism is all about? If so, your ideas of liberty and freedom must be very different from those of sane individuals. Communism is one of the greatest evils ever to plague mankind, especially when coupled with facism, as it so often is. Indeed, the two are almost inseperable.

Originally posted by shavixmir
This is all capitalism for you.
Like in the States. Or are you suggesting Georgie boy is a commie too?

Don't be silly.
Communism is all about civil liberties and freedom of expression.

"What about Joe then?"
Joe was a dictator and nothing about him was ever communist.

"Communism is all about civil liberties and freedom of expression"

I have read tons of books and watched a life time of film and never, never,ever have i heard of such silliness.

Please explain!

Originally posted by mrstabby
How does the UK not have civil liberties or freedom of expression? You talk about the place like it's North Korea. Compared to the rest of the world we're pretty damned cushy, if not among the most free, especially considering the country considers itself to be at war.
The BBC must be pretty damn unbiased seeing as people on both ends of the political spectrum constantly whine about it being biased towards the other end.

Then how do you explain the internal Beeb report that came out last week admitting that there is a liberal bias?

Don't get me wrong, I think a media company willing to look at itself and admit bias is something they should be commended for, I just don't see how that matches up with them being pretty damn unbias.

Originally posted by princeoforange
Well perhaps communist was a bit strong for Tony, but he is certainly a rabid, left wing, socialist looney, there is nothing "New" about Labour in the UK.

Where did the 90% statistic come from? I very much doubt it is correct.

So the truth about GW is tied to the political leanings of the people involved? Why do I keep seeing news reports showing pictures of the Alps 50 years ago and new ones of the same locations now, and guess what, the glaciers are all going, going, gone. Some commie politition doing a paint job on the photo's? What I see is a huge population in denial, the "Humans are so tiny in the bigger picture that anything we do could never infect the incredibly huge planet earth' argument. Well take a look at some of the cities in China, where they are oil deprived and use coal instead, you think all that smoke and coal dust is not going to have an effect? There is solid evidence that when a volcano blows its top, the weather around the entire planet is effected for weeks because of greenhouse gasses in the atmosphere. People have their heads firmly up their assses and the big oil companies pay big bucks to scientists to keep it that way, and if you doubt that, you are just joining your friends with your head in the sand. Like Shav says, most people don't give a dam so what's the big deal. Hey, its not US we are worried about, its our grandkids. You have a problem with people actually thinking a century ahead?
If so you are just another one of the billions who can only think to the next reality tv show.

Originally posted by sonhouse
So the truth about GW is tied to the political leanings of the people involved? Why do I keep seeing news reports showing pictures of the Alps 50 years ago and new ones of the same locations now, and guess what, the glaciers are all going, going, gone. Some commie politition doing a paint job on the photo's? What I see is a huge population in denial, the "H ...[text shortened]... so you are just another one of the billions who can only think to the next reality tv show.

Yeah and you and shav and those other loonie toons who think climate change is unnatural and caused by mankind are the same halfwit loonies who cried about the coming ice age in the seventies. There was a scientific "consensus" then too. The "scientists" who keep banging on about man-made global warming now are motivated by fat government grants to "research" a non-existent problem. So clearly they have a vested interest to perpetuate the myth.

Auge Auer was right when he said the man-made global warming climate change theory would be a joke in five years. It'll take that long for all the alarmist retards to see the emperor actually doesn't have any clothes after all.

Originally posted by princeoforange
Either you are trying to be funny and not quite making it (again) or you are being serious, in which case you need your head seen to. So, Stalin wasn't a communist, and presumeably you'd also say that Mao, Pol Pot, Kim Jung Il, Kim Il Sung, Castro, Allende, Chavez etc. etc ad infinitum (well almost) are not communists either simply because they are ( ...[text shortened]... pecially when coupled with facism, as it so often is. Indeed, the two are almost inseperable.

Yeah, communism linked with fascism is the worst!

It's a bit like skinny, fat kids and giant dwarves.

Originally posted by Wheely
Yeah, communism linked with fascism is the worst!

It's a bit like skinny, fat kids and giant dwarves.

No, it's a little more like bloody, authoritarian dictatorship linked with the most corrupt economic system in the world, which is prejudicial to the advancement and progress of mankind in general. Communism and facism are not mutually exclusive as you are suggestins, they usually go hand in hand. For evidence, see all the examples listed above.

Originally posted by SpastiGov

Auge Auer was right when he said the man-made global warming climate change theory would be a joke in five years. It'll take that long for all the alarmist retards to see the emperor actually doesn't have any clothes after all.

Well maybe not. If we allow emissions to run unchecked it may cause decreased visibility all round such that the Emperor will always be clothed if for nothing else than with a clinging layer of micro fine dust particles, carbon monoxide and smog.

Originally posted by kmax87
Well maybe not. If we allow emissions to run unchecked it may cause decreased visibility all round such that the Emperor will always be clothed if for nothing else than with a clinging layer of micro fine dust particles, carbon monoxide and smog.

Haha!! Excellent!!

Originally posted by kmax87
Well maybe not. If we allow emissions to run unchecked it may cause decreased visibility all round such that the Emperor will always be clothed if for nothing else than with a clinging layer of micro fine dust particles, carbon monoxide and smog.

Nice SUV Missy.

Originally posted by steponup
Scientists have predicted that unless global warming is halted the earth will implode between now and the next millenium. I don't wanna die, do you?

I certainly hope you don't live until the next millenium.

Originally posted by princeoforange
[b]Look at the UK today. Do we have civil liberties? No. Do we have freedom of expression? No. Do we have an unbiased media? No,

Whoooaaa! When did the UK lose freedom of speech/expression and their civil liberties?? MAN!! You don't pick up a USA Today for a week and look what happens? The whole world goes to hell in a handbasket! Macswain! You're supposed to keep me up to date in affairs that don't happen in the USA. Did FoxVews report on this?

Originally posted by PinkFloyd
[b]Whoooaaa! When did the UK lose freedom of speech/expression and their civil liberties??

😕 ???
News to me.