26 Jul 05
Originally posted by lioyankAborted fetuses don't have a sufficient brain to think at any level, so how I would "think" if I was a fetus is moot. Do you swat mosquitos? Do you kill germs that cause bad breath with Listerine? Then you have done a morally equivalent act to a first trimester abortion (about 90% of those performed in the US).
wib, im not trying to paint anyone any colors; if anything, i would say that you were trying to "paint" me in a "dark shade" with your portrayal of me trying to paint. 🙄
i wasnt trying to make no1 look like a maniac... the homeless analogy was a bit of an exaggeration. however, the second story of him being killed in the womb is not invalid. he impl ...[text shortened]... open mind, but sometimes you open up your head just far enough to where your brain pops out.....
26 Jul 05
Originally posted by no1marauder
Aborted fetuses don't have a sufficient brain to think at any level, so how I would "think" if I was a fetus is moot. Do you swat mosquitos? Do you kill germs that cause bad breath with Listerine? Then you have done a morally equivalent act to a first trimester abortion (about 90% of those performed in the US).
This statement shows your disdain for unborn human life.
First dehumanise the human being then you can kill it.
26 Jul 05
Originally posted by no1marauderNo1: "Aborted fetuses don't have a sufficient brain to think at any level"
Aborted fetuses don't have a sufficient brain to think at any level, so how I would "think" if I was a fetus is moot. Do you swat mosquitos? Do you kill germs that cause bad breath with Listerine? Then you have done a morally equivalent act to a first trimester abortion (about 90% of those performed in the US).
Reread your sentence, please. Then you'll hopefully come to the conclusion that you haven't got a sufficient brain to think either, genius.
26 Jul 05
Originally posted by ivanhoeIf you would like to show some scientific evidence that fetuses in the first trimester have reasoning powers by all means do. The other poster asked the question how I would feel if I was a fetus; since feelings are a product of thought and reason which are impossible without a developed brain his question is moot. Of course, as you know, my position on abortion is not reliant on such matters as my approach is based on the personal autonomy of the human being concerned: the woman, not on the supposed preferences of the non-sentient life housed inside her body. When that life is capable of functioning outside her body without extraordinary measures than it too is entitled to personal autonomy, but not before. I'm sure you'll have some childish answer to this rather than debating it (you don't do that anymore), but that's my position based on a Lockean Fundamental Rights philosophy.
No1: "Aborted fetuses don't have a sufficient brain to think at any level"
Reread your sentence, please. Then you'll hopefully come to the conclusion that you haven't got a sufficient brain to think either, genius.
26 Jul 05
Originally posted by no1marauderI'm a bit confused here: are you actually comparing an "unborn fetus" to a "mosquito" and "germs"?!? I hope this is sarcasm.
Aborted fetuses don't have a sufficient brain to think at any level, so how I would "think" if I was a fetus is moot. Do you swat mosquitos? Do you kill germs that cause bad breath with Listerine? Then you have done a morally equivalent act to a first trimester abortion (about 90% of those performed in the US).
26 Jul 05
I'm sure you'll have some childish answer to this rather than debating it (you don't do that anymore), but that's my position based on a Lockean Fundamental Rights philosophy.[/b]Lockean Fundamental Rights: I touched on this VERY briefly. Even so, could you please enlighten me as to HOW this would pertain to abortion.
26 Jul 05
Originally posted by no1marauderYou can't read your own sentences.
If you would like to show some scientific evidence that fetuses in the first trimester have reasoning powers by all means do. The other poster asked the question how I would feel if I was a fetus; since feelings are a product of thought and reason which are impossible without a developed brain his question is moot. Of course, as you know, my positi ...[text shortened]... n't do that anymore), but that's my position based on a Lockean Fundamental Rights philosophy.
No1: "If you would like to show some scientific evidence that fetuses in the first trimester have reasoning powers by all means do."
Why do they, the unborn, have to meet your criteria in order to have a Right to Life ?
26 Jul 05
Originally posted by ivanhoeTry to read the whole post.
You can't read your own sentences.
No1: "If you would like to show some scientific evidence that fetuses in the first trimester have reasoning powers by all means do."
Why do they, the unborn, have to meet your criteria in order to have a Right to Life ?
Why do women have to meet your criteria before the State can put them in prison for choosing to have a medical procedure?
26 Jul 05
Originally posted by lioyankI can't help your confusion. A zygote at conception has the same amount of reasoning power (i.e. none as it has no brain) as a germ or bacteria. In early stages of foetal development, it perhaps has a mind equivalent to a mosquito (maybe) or other simple insect. You asked what I would think if I was a fetus: as far as a fetus shortly after conception, you might just as well ask what I would think if I was a germ. Understand now?
I'm a bit confused here: are you actually comparing an "unborn fetus" to a "mosquito" and "germs"?!? I hope this is sarcasm.