27 Jul 05
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Originally posted by no1marauder
How is that relevant? Do you oppose medical treatment for people with HIV because they acted immorally in your view? Isn't that what the whole abortion thing is really about in your view; the woman have sinned for having sex wit ...[text shortened]... th an unwanted pregnancy? Ain't that what it's REALLY all about?
Your assumptions are YOUR fantasies. Your fantasies have NOTHING to do with MY opinions.
27 Jul 05
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Originally posted by ivanhoeIt's a public forum; if you want to have a private conversation with
No1: " As a emergency one, perhaps. So what?
I'm sure Invigorate can speak for himself.
By the way, I am not speaking on behalf of the Roman Catholic Church. I'm speaking on behalf of myself.
Invigorate, use the PM system. Please answer the question; if you believe abortion is the killing of a baby of what possible difference is it if it is used as a form of birth-control or not?
27 Jul 05
Originally posted by ivanhoeDo share them; in case you missed it this is a DEBATE FORUM. If you hide your opinions like a squirrel hides its nuts, how can we have a debate?
Your assumptions are YOUR fantasies. Your fantasies have NOTHING to do with MY opinions.
Why is your question about HIV relevant to an abortion debate?
27 Jul 05
Originally posted by no1marauderpage 3 of this thread; 12th post down. My reasons aren't based around the Catholic Church, or any religion for that matter. Are you saying that if my own stance coincides with some religion's, that I must be a member of "the faith"?
Then why does it matter if abortion is used as a form of birth control or not?
27 Jul 05
Originally posted by no1marauderAll that matters to me is whether or not my tax money is being used. Personally I'd rather have several loads of new gravel on our road than provide social/medical services to strangers whose demands seem to be infinite.
Then why does it matter if abortion is used as a form of birth control or not?
27 Jul 05
Originally posted by lioyankAnother person who doesn't know what they're talking about. Ivanhoe is an outspoken conservative Roman Catholic; thus I was asking him if the RCC's position that any kind of contraception was sinful was the basis of his objection to abortion as birth control. Since the post was not directed towards anything you said, it obviously doesn't imply anything about your beliefs. Is reading really that hard?
page 3 of this thread; 12th post down. My reasons aren't based around the Catholic Church, or any religion for that matter. Are you saying that if my own stance coincides with some religion's, that I must be a member of "the faith"?
27 Jul 05
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Originally posted by lioyankI don't see any answer to the question and I'm not going hunting through the thread for it. So either answer the question or not; I really don't care which.
This question WAS directed at me. I answered it. And, no it's not "that hard" to read. So why do you have such a problem with it?
EDIT: By the logic of your other post, you oppose ALL birth control.
27 Jul 05
Originally posted by lioyankYou didn't have to search far for it. It was on this very same page...
page 3 of this thread; 12th post down. My reasons aren't based around the Catholic Church, or any religion for that matter. Are you saying that if my own stance coincides with some religion's, that I must be a member of "the faith"?
27 Jul 05
Originally posted by lioyankThe one you cited:
What post would that be?!? If you're going to say something like THAT, you have to show the evidence.
if those mothers WEREN'T mature enough to begin with, then they SHOULDN'T be having sex to begin with. By allowing for abortion to continue, we are allowing for women to have a "Plan B" in case they do get pregnant. In other words, we are just making the problem worse, since now they will be allowed to rely on having an abortion instead of abstaining from sex until they ARE mature enough to handle the consequences. By legalizing abortion, we are just allowing it to get worse.
Substitute the words "birth control" for "abortion".