THE WORD OF GOD

Originally posted by Moldy Crow
So god who is all powerful and all knowing could only come up with two options : Brutally murder his innocent son , or brutally torture all of humanity (whom he is supposed to love ) ? Only those two options ? He couldn't have come up with anything other than that ? His hands were tied , he was bound by the fine print in the contract , limited by someth ...[text shortened]... ach is definitely the way to go , you're saying .

Do you ever stop and listen to yourself ?

Do you listen yourself, (and say this not trying to insult or dean you in anyway)? You have accused GOD of killing HIS son,who came to this earth in human form. But have you HONESTLY looked at what happened.You have focased on what you think GOD did. But have focased at the truth. Who was that serpent in the garden of eden? Satan! GENESIS 3:1-14
Before CHRIST began HIS ministry who came to tempt HIM? Satan! MATTHEW 4:1-11
Who tried to kill HIM, when HE, was a baby? Satan! MATTHEW 2:13-23.

Originally posted by blindfaith101
At one time believers were unbelievers. We said the same things to believers that are being said on this and other websites. Something happenened in our lives that allowed us to stop being stubborn and listen.We were allowed even through all the hurt and pain that, may have been in our life, we were able to hear that someone could heal us. Do think m ...[text shortened]... ng and screaming, but we hear HE had to say, we began to hear what, THE WORD OF GOD, had to say.

This thread is for the word of god. I have not heard you speak it yet. You are yappin about your god.....Who you worship, but not God. Prove your god is the only god without all of this drivel that is written down in a book of fairy tails, in accounts that have been probobly been written and re-written for reasons of propaganda for controlling people and their actions.

Mike

Originally posted by BigDoggProblem
Nobody makes God kill anyone. [b]He is the one with the hangup about sins. God could choose to accept humans despite their sin.

If it is really true that Jesus was innocent and mankind guilty,and all sin must be punished by death and/or eternal torture, then there is no just choice but to destroy humanity. Any other choice is a perversion of justice. It is pointless to say God is without sin when he murders his own son.[/b]

You are close,somewhat. Yes all sin must be destroyed. But why should GOD accept sin? Why should a GOD thats hates the very act of sin, accept it? Why can not humans accept GOD without sinning?

Originally posted by BigDoggProblem
So you admit that God himself sins, yet he exempts himself from his own rules? And has the audacity to cast humans into hell because they commit far lesser sins than murder?

Ridiculous.

GOD does not sin, nor will he accept sin in any form. Are you saying that GOD, should allow sin to run wild? When would you stop Sin? When would you stop a murderer, after he has killed you?

Originally posted by frogstomp
So this here perfert God made all us flawed people so he could have us kill his son so the he wouldnt have to send us to the hell he made to put us flawed people in?

That's just perfect!

GOD did not create man as flawed. GENESIS 1:26
Man chose to be flawed. GENESIS 3:1-13

Originally posted by rapalla7
This thread is for the word of god. I have not heard you speak it yet. You are yappin about your god.....Who you worship, but not God. Prove your god is the only god without all of this drivel that is written down in a book of fairy tails, in accounts that have been probobly been written and re-written for reasons of propaganda for controlling people and their actions.

Mike

THE WORD OF GOD is about my GOD. You say HE doesnot exsist yet you have not proved that HE doesnot.
THE WORD OF GOD ,speaks and proves itself.

Originally posted by blindfaith101
Do you want to be a robot,which has set duties,and cannot think for its self? Who is progamed to what ever it is told? Such as a computer which has to be pprogramed to fucntion?
Or would you rather be able to think for yourself? To be able to chose your own thoughts, to chose your own path in life?
Which you rather be the computer or the programer?

Apart from the fact that this is utterly irrelevant to the debate, I will answer once more for you. I am in control of myself, I am not a robot. If there are robots in this chess site, they are undoubtedly you and RBHILL. I refuse to talk to you both any futher in any debates as you are quite incapable of debating.

This is a debate forum, so debate! This is not a forum to preach in, so do not preach!

You will never persuade anyone to follow god because you don't have the intelligence to even understand what it means. You are not carrying the truth to the masses, you are alienating them, but once again you are not blessed with the faculties to understand this.

Farewell, may you continue to skirt the issue for many years to come.

Originally posted by blindfaith101
THE WORD OF GOD is about my GOD. You say HE doesnot exsist yet you have not proved that HE doesnot.
THE WORD OF GOD ,speaks and proves itself.

I never said your god does not. You have said yours is the only one. So you do the work. I have pushed many like you over my front hedge and they don't come around no more, and I am tired of you people. You can quote the bible just fine, but you are missing the spiritual end. I don't know what terrible lives you led or what has been done to you....abuse or what have you that has lead you to your cult that save you from your past...... I don't care. Just shut the hell up.

Mike

Originally posted by GWUchessmaster
God did not make a flawed species.

Of course he did, by the bible's admission.

"For all have sinned, and have fallen short of the glory of God" -Romans

"The LORD saw how great man's wickedness on the earth had become, and that every inclination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil all the time. The LORD was grieved that he had made man on the earth, and his heart was filled with pain." -Genesis

Originally posted by blindfaith101
GOD gave man a choice, in the garden of Eden. HE could have made us like the animals, created to be obedient without question. GOD punished man for his sin, of eating the fruit. He punished the woman, for being tricked. Why did HE punish the serpent? GENESIS 3:11-19
You want man to be found faulty, but have you ever looked at sin, from GOD'S point of view?

"GOD did not sentence CHRIST to death,mankind did."

God sent christ to the earth knowing full well he would die. Nobody could have killed christ unless god allowed it. Therefore, he is culpable.

"You want man to be found faulty, but have you ever looked at sin, from GOD'S point of view?"

My main point is that god is also faulty. He violates the very laws he imposes on others. God's point of view should be that he is in no position to make judgements on the wrongs of others when he sentences his own son to die. Anything else is hypocrisy.

Originally posted by BigDoggProblem
Of course he did, by the bible's admission.

"For all have sinned, and have fallen short of the glory of God" -Romans

"The LORD saw how great man's wickedness on the earth had become, and that every inclination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil all the time. The LORD was grieved that he had made man on the earth, and his heart was filled with pain." -Genesis

Actually, the Bible merely implies that God made man capable of flaw, not flawed. There's a difference.

Originally posted by lucifershammer
Actually, the Bible merely implies that God made man capable of flaw, not flawed. There's a difference.

Is man capable of choosing not to be flawed? I think not. If the bible says that all have sinned, that includes all 6-7 billion of us on the planet today plus everyone that has ever lived in the past (except Jeebus). Doesn't sound like the species has the consistency and foresight that it takes to remain flawless.

Originally posted by BigDoggProblem
Is man capable of choosing not to be flawed? I think not. If the bible says that all have sinned, that includes all 6-7 billion of us on the planet today plus everyone that has ever lived in the past (except Jeebus). Doesn't sound like the species has the consistency and foresight that it takes to remain flawless.

the odds may be stacked agaisnt us (some stupid sum, to 1), but it means that it is indeed possible, although not probable.

Originally posted by genius
the odds may be stacked agaisnt us (some stupid sum, to 1), but it means that it is indeed possible, although not probable.

I don't think people realize just how long a shot this is. Billions upon billions of people have had their chance and failed!

I don't care to set up an actual equation, but I bet that a human is more likely to win several lotteries in his lifetime than to make it through life without committing a sin.

Originally posted by BigDoggProblem
I don't think people realize just how long a shot this is. Billions upon billions of people have had their chance and failed!

I don't care to set up an actual equation, but I bet that a human is more likely to win several lotteries in his lifetime than to make it through life without committing a sin.

People sin all the time man.
Little Kids always lie to their parents.