14 Jan 05
You guys must be really bored arguing with brainwashed, dimwitted, cult members, which have stacks of propaganda at the ready to drone out the message they have no hope of understanding themselves. Ask them what exact sins Christ died for. They have no f-ing clue. But it is not important........is it?
They spew out the gospel as printed in their little pamphlets and magazines.....it is really quite amusing.
Why does it make normal casual Christians angry to read what they write? Because they make Christianity look foolish and fanatical, and quit frankly, scary. Fanaticism like theirs is the reason thousands of innocent people were murdered by the “Holy” church in the first place. Ignorance and fanaticism!
Mike
14 Jan 05
Originally posted by rapalla7well said
You guys must be really bored arguing with brainwashed, dimwitted, cult members, which have stacks of propaganda at the ready to drone out the message they have no hope of understanding themselves. Ask them what exact sins Christ died for. They have no f-ing clue. But it is not important........is it?
They spew out the gospel as printed in their litt ...[text shortened]... le were murdered by the “Holy” church in the first place. Ignorance and fanaticism!
Mike
15 Jan 05
Originally posted by Joe FistAnd the Lord God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat: But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil,thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thou shalt surely die. GENESIS 2:16,17
well said
And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food,and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof,and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat. GENESIS 3:6
What was the original sin?Man did what GOD commanded him,not to do.
When Adam sinned, sin entered the entire human race.His sin spread death thruoghout all the world, so everything began to grow old and die,for all sinned. WE know that it was Adam's sin that caused this because although, of course people were sinning from the time of Adam until Moses,God did not in those days judge them guilty of death for breaking his laws--because he had not yet given his laws to them, nor told them what he wanted them to do.So when their bodies died it was not for their own sins since they themselves had never disobeyed God's special law against eating the forbidden fruit,as Adam had. What a contrast between Adam and Christ who was yet to com. ROMANS 5:12-14 TLB.
THE WORD OF GOD also says,
For the wages of sin is death,but the free gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. ROMANS 6:23
15 Jan 05
Originally posted by blindfaith101Very nice, I am not sure if it was in answer to my question though. What sins did Jesus die for?
And the Lord God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat: But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil,thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thou shalt surely die. GENESIS 2:16,17
And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food,and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree t ...[text shortened]... n is death,but the free gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. ROMANS 6:23
15 Jan 05
Originally posted by blindfaith101Unless you want it broke down this way:
The sin that Adam committed by disobeying GOD.As well as all the Sins that Adam's descendants have committed.
all forms idol worship
all desrepect of parents
all use of GOD's name as a swear word
Blasphemy of THE HOLY SPIRIT
all forms of murder
all forms of stealing
all forms of adultery
all forms of lying
all forms of lust
15 Jan 05
I'm curious about Adam's sin. When he ate the apple or fruit or whatever, was that in itself the sin, because God said don't do it. Or was the apple of some significance, representing something. Surely God wouldn't transfer the curse to all of mankind if one of us merely ate a piece of fruit. Could God just as well have said, "Don't cross this line" or "Don't wear sandals." In other words, was it merely because Adam disobeyed or was it because the fruit represented something greater than something hanging on a tree. Just curious.
15 Jan 05
Originally posted by buddy2Adam disobeyed.
I'm curious about Adam's sin. When he ate the apple or fruit or whatever, was that in itself the sin, because God said don't do it. Or was the apple of some significance, representing something. Surely God wouldn't transfer the curse to all of mankind if one of us merely ate a piece of fruit. Could God just as well have said, "Don't cross this line ...[text shortened]... because the fruit represented something greater than something hanging on a tree. Just curious.
15 Jan 05
Originally posted by buddy2Depends on the line of "myth" you choose to follow.
I'm curious about Adam's sin. When he ate the apple or fruit or whatever, was that in itself the sin, because God said don't do it. Or was the apple of some significance, representing something. Surely God wouldn't transfer the curse to all of mankind if one of us merely ate a piece of fruit. Could God just as well have said, "Don't cross this line ...[text shortened]... because the fruit represented something greater than something hanging on a tree. Just curious.
Try this one on.
Jesus offered a plan to God to let all the spirits in heaven be born.
Jesus's brother, Satan also offered a plan to let all the spirits in heaven be born.
In both cases, the reason for "mortal birth and death" was to let all the immortal spirit beings gain a "knowledge of good and evil", ie, eternal live vs. permanent death.
Lucifer said "I will make them all obey the word of God. For they are to learn nothing more than the precious gift of life."
Jesus said "Not so. Let them have free will to disobey the word of God. In so doing, they will gain an appreciation of the wisdom of Gods law."
God was sad. He Loved both of his sons.
"How can I choose between these, my sons?" he asked.
"Send me. For I will not abandon nor lose any of these precious souls to you, my father." said Lucifer.
"Send me. For in losing the souls of many, also will many learn righteousness and be able to know good from evil." said Jesus.
So God said. "Why am I so tormented. Which of you will prove your plan?"
And Jesus said. "Send me. I will gladly suffer death so that so many can learn to choose right from wrong. I will go there myself and offer my life, as proof that I care for this plan."
And Lucifer laughed. For he had the keys to the world. And could force his will in the form of evil men everywhere.
15 Jan 05
Originally posted by StarValleyWyBeing an Atheist is being ignorent and thinking to highly of ones self. You think you are more important to yourself then to others or God. You think that the Bible is a bunch of rules, well you are wrong. It is the way of Salvation though Jesus. You don't have to follow any rules you just have to have the littlest faith possible and ask Christ to forgive you of your sins and have Him come into your HEART. Rev. 3:20.
Depends on the line of "myth" you choose to follow.
Try this one on.
Jesus offered a plan to God to let all the spirits in heaven be born.
Jesus's brother, Satan also offered a plan to let all the spirits in heaven be born.
In both cases, the reason for "mortal birth and death" was to let all the immortal spirit beings gain a "knowledg ...[text shortened]... . For he had the keys to the world. And could force his will in the form of evil men everywhere.
15 Jan 05
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Originally posted by RBHILLToo right.
Being an Atheist is being ignorent and thinking to highly of ones self. You think you are more important to yourself then to others or God. You think that the Bible is a bunch of rules, well you are wrong. It is the way of Salvation though J ...[text shortened]... ive you of your sins and have Him come into your HEART. Rev. 3:20.
But you left out the part about being tormented because we (atheists) see what "almost" certainly is. Yet are whacked between the eyes by our 'conscience' to obey the prime directive.
One can feel downright "dirty" when interfering with the species as it is now. Let it grow. Another ten thousand years can't hurt. Except for all the "true non-believers". They are zealots, and obey not the prime directive. 🙁😵
15 Jan 05
Originally posted by buddy2The tree was The Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil. Adam and Eve had no knowledge of good or evil,until they ate the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil.All Adam had to do was listen to what GOD has said.
I'm curious about Adam's sin. When he ate the apple or fruit or whatever, was that in itself the sin, because God said don't do it. Or was the apple of some significance, representing something. Surely God wouldn't transfer the curse to all of mankind if one of us merely ate a piece of fruit. Could God just as well have said, "Don't cross this line ...[text shortened]... because the fruit represented something greater than something hanging on a tree. Just curious.